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yeldarb · 04-02-2007, 12:52 PM

I've been using Remington Golden Sabre's, and I really like them. The other day, I picked up a new box and when I got home I noticed that they say "bonded". The ones that I've been using don't say that. Being a new to the world of handguns, I have to ask... What's the difference?

By the way, there's nothing else differnt on the box, and they look exactly the same.

yeldarb · 04-02-2007, 01:26 PM

Someone has to know...

Richard L Shield · 04-02-2007, 01:28 PM

If I remember correctly, The copper is bonded to the lead. They do this so it will hold togeter on impact.

yeldarb · 04-02-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard L Shield

If I remember correctly, The copper is bonded to the lead. They do this so it will hold togeter on impact.

So it spreads out more... rather than fragmenting?

hotpig · 04-02-2007, 01:56 PM

Bonded bullets often do not expand as much as non bonded ammo. You give up a little expansion for barrier penetration.

**agalindo** · 04-02-2007, 03:10 PM

Golden sabers have always been bonded. Like stated before they are bonded so the lead and jacket will stay in once piece.

**jnclement** · 04-02-2007, 03:19 PM

Work great on elk, and other large game.

hotpig · 04-02-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yeldarb

So it spreads out more... rather than fragmenting?

Yes, the lead core is bonded to the jacket so that it stays together. The GS had a lot of problems with jacket seperation so a few years ago they came out with the bonded line. When it first came out it was a resricted sale to Law Enforcement only. I stopped stocking it a few years ago due to slow sales.

The Knight Of Light · 04-02-2007, 04:20 PM

If you are wonder what the word Bonded actually refers to, it is similar to soldering. Instead of a chunk of lead molded inside a copper cup, the lead is porued into the copper cup as liquid or the lead chunk is put into the cup and then the bullet blank is heated until the lead melts. When the lead solidifies it is soldered or "bonded" to the copper jacket. The bullet then runs through a die and press system to for the end bullet shape.

Speer does it a little differently. They plate the the lead core instead of soldering it. They then form the bullet.

stu katz · 04-06-2007, 01:22 PM

coerbon/dpx is s solid cooper bullet so no seperation. gs is soldered as mentioned but god dots are electomagnetically bonded. so no separation and good penetration

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jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,613	Work great on elk, and other large game. __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.

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The Knight Of Light XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska(sublocated at a Sandy location far, far away) Posts: 8,873 Blog Entries: 13	If you are wonder what the word Bonded actually refers to, it is similar to soldering. Instead of a chunk of lead molded inside a copper cup, the lead is porued into the copper cup as liquid or the lead chunk is put into the cup and then the bullet blank is heated until the lead melts. When the lead solidifies it is soldered or "bonded" to the copper jacket. The bullet then runs through a die and press system to for the end bullet shape. Speer does it a little differently. They plate the the lead core instead of soldering it. They then form the bullet. __________________ No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. USPSA #L3077 What a great number!!! http://theknightoflight.blogspot.com/ Creator of TOP 'O' THE PAGE!!! Moose Fight

04-02-2007, 01:56 PM	#5
hotpig XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SW Illinois Posts: 287	Bonded bullets often do not expand as much as non bonded ammo. You give up a little expansion for barrier penetration.

04-06-2007, 01:22 PM	#10
stu katz XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NY Posts: 21	bonded coerbon/dpx is s solid cooper bullet so no seperation. gs is soldered as mentioned but god dots are electomagnetically bonded. so no separation and good penetration __________________ XD- bi tone 40 M+P 40 9mm beretta S+W 357 Magnum 380 Sig Sauer Colt Officers 45

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