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DNM · 06-13-2007, 10:52 PM

I'm going to have to figure out how to get chrono doing the math for me as it's taken me a while to do it all on the calculator... and I'm going to want to invest in either a micro disk or adjustable charge bar so I can make smaller changes in powder dump. More control to inch my way up instead of going from 4.5gr-4.9-5.2. Eh, live and learn. I also think the 15# spring may be too light as when shooting FAST, some rounds failed to go into battery. Though I also think it could be the fact that I loaded the rounds a little long. (1.135-1.137") I'll make a load of about 4.7-4.9 of PowerPistol @ the standard OAL 1.125" for Saturday's IDPA and we'll see what it chronos later.

Through my Service Model XD40 w/DGR and 15# spring:

Location: Greenwater, WA
Temp: 50-55 degrees

4.4gr PowerPistol
Mixed Brass
CCI Magnum Primers
155gr LaserCast RN
OAL – 1.135”

Lo – 727.4
Hi – 766.6
Av – 751.16
ES – 39.2
SD – 6
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) - 116

10 – 727.4
9 – 766.6
8 – 744.6
7 – 742.6
6 – 764.7
5 – 755.5
4 – 746.1
3 – 750.6
2 – 752.8
1 – 760.1

4.4gr PowerPistol
Mixed Brass
Winchester Small Primers
155gr LaserCast RN
OAL – 1.135”

Lo – 730.0
Hi – 758.2
Av – 747.92
ES – 28.2
SD – 8.9
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) = 116

10 – 738.4
9 – 751.4
8 – 754.9
7 – 730.0
6 – 750.4
5 – 750.3
4 – 751.8
3 – 739.7
2 –758.2
1 – 754.1

4.3gr Universal Clays
Mixed Brass
Winchester Small Primers
155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN
OAL – 1.135”

Lo – 730.2
Hi – 794.0
Av – 760.48
ES – 64.2
SD – 22
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) - 118

10 – 735.8
9 – 785.0
8 – 752.6
7 – 769.5
6 – 730.2
5 – 767.5
4 – 794.0
3 – 753.5
2 – 779.9
1 – 736.8

4.5gr Universal Clays
Mixed Brass
Winchester Small Primers
155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN
OAL – 1.135”

Lo – 803.2
Hi – 913.0
Av – 846.02
ES – 109.8
SD – 34
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) - 131

10 – 803.2
9 – 913.0
8 – 824.1
7 – 809.2
6 – 829.3
5 – 851.0
4 – 847.3
3 – 849.8
2 – 845.3
1 – 888.2

4.9gr Universal Clays
Mixed Brass
Winchester Small Primers
155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN
OAL – 1.135”

Lo – 860.8
Hi – 995.0
Av – 928.59
ES – 134.2
SD – 58
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) - 144

10 – 890.8
9 – 917.9
8 – 926.7
7 – 860.8
6 – 995.0
5 – 924.4
4 – 936.7
3 – 957.1
2 – 938.1
1 – 948.4

5.2gr Universal Clays
Mixed Brass
Winchester Small Primers
155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN
OAL – 1.135”

Lo – 972.5
Hi – 1024
Av – 996.54
ES – 51.5
SD – 17.6
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) – 154.5

10 – 1024
9 – 991.7
8 – 985.1
7 – 993.9
6 – 973.4
5 – 1005
4 – 992.8
3 – 1007
2 – 1020
1 – 972.5

WAZX3DRVR · 06-14-2007, 06:41 PM

Playing that chrono was fun.....we gotta do that more often.

DNM · 06-14-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAZX3DRVR

Playing that chrono was fun.....we gotta do that more often.

Definately. Next time we'll bring one of your stand so I can also test accuracy. Though mathematically, PowerPistol may be the best load soo far (once at pf).

DNM · 06-20-2007, 11:34 PM

Service Model XD40 w/DGR and 15# spring
Location: Ellensburg, WA
Temp: 85-90 degrees
4.6gr PowerPistol
Mixed Brass
Winchester Small Primers
155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN
OAL – 1.125”
.43cc

Lo – 796.6
Hi – 832.2
Av – 817.42
ES – 35.6
SD – 11.56
# of shots – 10
PF (from Av) – 126.7

10 – 827.1
9 – 812.7
8 – 832.2
7 – 796.6
6 – 827.2
5 – 807.8
4 – 808.3
3 – 815.9
2 – 816.3
1 – 830.1

BTW, I shot that 131pf load of Universal Clays again today just to see how sensitive it is to temperature and it shot roughly 850-860s.

Out of the two loads (126pf PP and the 131pf Universal Clays) I feel the UC one, though statistically not as accurate, is a nicer load. I like the way it feels. I feel it's faster - slide movement - and easier to get back on target. I don't know. I'll have to try this setup again when it's not a dry heat with desert settings and I don't feel like I'm rubbing my fingers raw from gripping the pistol (though i did have a blast today). I'll go shooting again on Sunday with the ol' man so I'll try it and see how I feel.

Bewaffnet · 08-09-2007, 05:12 PM

How many times are you able to reload your .40 brass? Are there any issues such as bulging like a Glock? I am thinking of doing an XD 40 for Limited. I currently reload .45 on a Dillon 650 and the brass lasts forever.

Steel1212 · 08-09-2007, 05:16 PM

If you shoot 40 in limited you'll loose it before it wears out in my opinion. I don't typically keep any of my brass at the few ranges that we can pick up (read on gravel in stead of dirt) just do to the fact I've had problems with rims getting chewed up and then not extracting and running my match. I have how ever reloaded 5-6 times I think and still didn't notice any signs. I've actually shot brass, that some how I missed during checking, that had rust holes in the side. Did it at a major match and didn't notice it until I got the the chrono stage and the chrono man saw a few. I quickly double checked the rest that I had.

TEL76 · 09-10-2007, 10:23 PM

.40 brass I have has not worn out as far as I can tell. The only thing I gauge is the splits(in the cases) and the battering of the rim. The case guage will tell you if they are both bad.It's just like a .45 acp. You can tell.

zep_1 · 02-10-2008, 06:24 AM

correct me if im wrong but it seems alot of the reloading in this forum if for competition and getting a consistent load as far as fps, which in the long run will give you better results at the range, but how many people are reloading just for the price point, and if so where is have you found to be the cheapest place to get bullets? and what grain?

I just started reloading for rifle because of the number of bullets my brother and I go through for groundhog hunting and so forth. Excluding equipment I calculated it to be about 5 dollars for 20 rounds as opposed to 37 that I paid during hunting season.

It seems in the end with pistol ammo it will still be slightly cheaper to reload depending on the cost of the bullet, powder and primers seem pretty negligible
due to the low about of gains needed per shell for pistol ammo.

bullets1st · 05-13-2008, 03:57 PM

is 6.0 grains of win 231 to much for a 155 gr. bullet in a .40 cal?

**AZXD** · 05-29-2008, 06:58 AM

It seems like everything in this thread is for the 40 ... Is anyone reloading 10mm ??

Got any favorite light loads for range use, and maybe a full-house load for hunting ??

06-13-2007, 10:52 PM	#121
DNM XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Western WA Posts: 1,377	Finally got to use the chrono... I'm going to have to figure out how to get chrono doing the math for me as it's taken me a while to do it all on the calculator... and I'm going to want to invest in either a micro disk or adjustable charge bar so I can make smaller changes in powder dump. More control to inch my way up instead of going from 4.5gr-4.9-5.2. Eh, live and learn. I also think the 15# spring may be too light as when shooting FAST, some rounds failed to go into battery. Though I also think it could be the fact that I loaded the rounds a little long. (1.135-1.137") I'll make a load of about 4.7-4.9 of PowerPistol @ the standard OAL 1.125" for Saturday's IDPA and we'll see what it chronos later. Through my Service Model XD40 w/DGR and 15# spring: Location: Greenwater, WA Temp: 50-55 degrees 4.4gr PowerPistol Mixed Brass CCI Magnum Primers 155gr LaserCast RN OAL – 1.135” Lo – 727.4 Hi – 766.6 Av – 751.16 ES – 39.2 SD – 6 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) - 116 10 – 727.4 9 – 766.6 8 – 744.6 7 – 742.6 6 – 764.7 5 – 755.5 4 – 746.1 3 – 750.6 2 – 752.8 1 – 760.1 4.4gr PowerPistol Mixed Brass Winchester Small Primers 155gr LaserCast RN OAL – 1.135” Lo – 730.0 Hi – 758.2 Av – 747.92 ES – 28.2 SD – 8.9 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) = 116 10 – 738.4 9 – 751.4 8 – 754.9 7 – 730.0 6 – 750.4 5 – 750.3 4 – 751.8 3 – 739.7 2 –758.2 1 – 754.1 4.3gr Universal Clays Mixed Brass Winchester Small Primers 155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN OAL – 1.135” Lo – 730.2 Hi – 794.0 Av – 760.48 ES – 64.2 SD – 22 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) - 118 10 – 735.8 9 – 785.0 8 – 752.6 7 – 769.5 6 – 730.2 5 – 767.5 4 – 794.0 3 – 753.5 2 – 779.9 1 – 736.8 4.5gr Universal Clays Mixed Brass Winchester Small Primers 155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN OAL – 1.135” Lo – 803.2 Hi – 913.0 Av – 846.02 ES – 109.8 SD – 34 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) - 131 10 – 803.2 9 – 913.0 8 – 824.1 7 – 809.2 6 – 829.3 5 – 851.0 4 – 847.3 3 – 849.8 2 – 845.3 1 – 888.2 4.9gr Universal Clays Mixed Brass Winchester Small Primers 155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN OAL – 1.135” Lo – 860.8 Hi – 995.0 Av – 928.59 ES – 134.2 SD – 58 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) - 144 10 – 890.8 9 – 917.9 8 – 926.7 7 – 860.8 6 – 995.0 5 – 924.4 4 – 936.7 3 – 957.1 2 – 938.1 1 – 948.4 5.2gr Universal Clays Mixed Brass Winchester Small Primers 155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN OAL – 1.135” Lo – 972.5 Hi – 1024 Av – 996.54 ES – 51.5 SD – 17.6 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) – 154.5 10 – 1024 9 – 991.7 8 – 985.1 7 – 993.9 6 – 973.4 5 – 1005 4 – 992.8 3 – 1007 2 – 1020 1 – 972.5 __________________ "As I walk down the valley of the Shadow of Death I have no fear because I am the meanest motherfu*er in the whole valley" - General George S. Patton Last edited by DNM : 06-13-2007 at 11:14 PM.*

06-14-2007, 06:41 PM	#122
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06-20-2007, 11:34 PM	#124
DNM XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Western WA Posts: 1,377	Another new load... Service Model XD40 w/DGR and 15# spring Location: Ellensburg, WA Temp: 85-90 degrees 4.6gr PowerPistol Mixed Brass Winchester Small Primers 155gr Meister Bullets Inc. RN OAL – 1.125” .43cc Lo – 796.6 Hi – 832.2 Av – 817.42 ES – 35.6 SD – 11.56 # of shots – 10 PF (from Av) – 126.7 10 – 827.1 9 – 812.7 8 – 832.2 7 – 796.6 6 – 827.2 5 – 807.8 4 – 808.3 3 – 815.9 2 – 816.3 1 – 830.1 BTW, I shot that 131pf load of Universal Clays again today just to see how sensitive it is to temperature and it shot roughly 850-860s. Out of the two loads (126pf PP and the 131pf Universal Clays) I feel the UC one, though statistically not as accurate, is a nicer load. I like the way it feels. I feel it's faster - slide movement - and easier to get back on target. I don't know. I'll have to try this setup again when it's not a dry heat with desert settings and I don't feel like I'm rubbing my fingers raw from gripping the pistol (though i did have a blast today). I'll go shooting again on Sunday with the ol' man so I'll try it and see how I feel. __________________ "As I walk down the valley of the Shadow of Death I have no fear because I am the meanest motherfu*er in the whole valley" - General George S. Patton Last edited by DNM : 06-20-2007 at 11:37 PM.*

08-09-2007, 05:12 PM	#125
Bewaffnet XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 5	.40 brass How many times are you able to reload your .40 brass? Are there any issues such as bulging like a Glock? I am thinking of doing an XD 40 for Limited. I currently reload .45 on a Dillon 650 and the brass lasts forever.

08-09-2007, 05:16 PM	#126
Steel1212 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 559	If you shoot 40 in limited you'll loose it before it wears out in my opinion. I don't typically keep any of my brass at the few ranges that we can pick up (read on gravel in stead of dirt) just do to the fact I've had problems with rims getting chewed up and then not extracting and running my match. I have how ever reloaded 5-6 times I think and still didn't notice any signs. I've actually shot brass, that some how I missed during checking, that had rust holes in the side. Did it at a major match and didn't notice it until I got the the chrono stage and the chrono man saw a few. I quickly double checked the rest that I had. __________________ Corey Estill USPSA: A57351 IDPA: A26629 "Master or bust!!"

09-10-2007, 10:23 PM	#127
TEL76 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2	.40 brass I have has not worn out as far as I can tell. The only thing I gauge is the splits(in the cases) and the battering of the rim. The case guage will tell you if they are both bad.It's just like a .45 acp. You can tell.

02-10-2008, 06:24 AM	#128
zep_1 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	correct me if im wrong but it seems alot of the reloading in this forum if for competition and getting a consistent load as far as fps, which in the long run will give you better results at the range, but how many people are reloading just for the price point, and if so where is have you found to be the cheapest place to get bullets? and what grain? I just started reloading for rifle because of the number of bullets my brother and I go through for groundhog hunting and so forth. Excluding equipment I calculated it to be about 5 dollars for 20 rounds as opposed to 37 that I paid during hunting season. It seems in the end with pistol ammo it will still be slightly cheaper to reload depending on the cost of the bullet, powder and primers seem pretty negligible due to the low about of gains needed per shell for pistol ammo.

05-13-2008, 03:57 PM	#129
bullets1st XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in a bunker Posts: 46	is 6.0 grains of win 231 to much for a 155 gr. bullet in a .40 cal?

05-29-2008, 06:58 AM	#130
AZXD XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 10,151	It seems like everything in this thread is for the 40 ... Is anyone reloading 10mm ?? Got any favorite light loads for range use, and maybe a full-house load for hunting ?? __________________ Voting for Obama is like putting a gun to your head and hoping he calls for its confiscation before you can pull the trigger - AZXD This election is really about ... The Best Democracy Money Can Buy ... And Obama will attempt to prove it to all of us. - AZXD Oh good grief. AZXD .... you never fail to amaze me at what you will do to stir the pot. - KEVWYO I stirred nothing. Talk to your candidate and tell him I said he could go F himself. - AZXD

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