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10mm / 40 Caliber Reloading

This is a discussion on 10mm / 40 Caliber Reloading within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; I was giving you the size spring if you NEEDED to go down. If the stocker works and thats what you want then go with ...


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Old 01-11-2007, 05:02 PM   #31
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I was giving you the size spring if you NEEDED to go down. If the stocker works and thats what you want then go with that. If you switch to DON's guide rod then you can use 1911 springs and fine tune.

Rich is from Canyon Creek and has been working on XDs from day 1.
Scott is from Springer Precision and is who did my work.

In competition reliablity is a must. If the gun won't cycle with poofers then either go up on the spring or the powder. I won't go below the 16 pounder but I can't get any minor type loads to work with a 18# spring and can't find a 17# spring gov length to try.
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I was giving you the size spring if you NEEDED to go down. If the stocker works and thats what you want then go with that. If you switch to DON's guide rod then you can use 1911 springs and fine tune.

Rich is from Canyon Creek and has been working on XDs from day 1.
Scott is from Springer Precision and is who did my work.

In competition reliablity is a must. If the gun won't cycle with poofers then either go up on the spring or the powder. I won't go below the 16 pounder but I can't get any minor type loads to work with a 18# spring and can't find a 17# spring gov length to try.
22 was too heavy for my minor loads. Stovepiped.

the spring I used the day I chrono'd the ammo was 18.

You can go as light as 16, but it doesn't seem to be recommended. I thought it was a little faster, but switched back to the 18 b/c I had some trouble with the slide returning to battery.
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22 was too heavy for my minor loads. Stovepiped. DUH!!

the spring I used the day I chrono'd the ammo was 18.

You can go as light as 16, but it doesn't seem to be recommended. I thought it was a little faster, but switched back to the 18 b/c I had some trouble with the slide returning to battery.
If Kydoc was useing a 18# with the baby bunny fart loads he was cookin up then I think all service .40s should follow the same as they should all be reliable. The tac is a whole new ball game as Kydoc will soon find out when he gets his new toy back!
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So stick with the stock assembly for now. (which was the plan) I don't want to blame the gun until I have figured out the load problems. I put some factory ammo in with a few bunny fart loads and it's MUCH different... BAM BAM BAM, bleh, BAM, bleh... but that was about where it went, pfff. and I just felt something was wrong. Pulled the slide back, looked down the barrel and couldn't see light, disassembled the gun and there it was.

I just loaded up 100 at 3.2gr CLAYS again today and hopefully tomorrow before I go shooting I'll load another 100 maybe in 3.3gr CLAYS just to figure it out the CLAYS load. (before I work on the low TG load and compare). I want it to be flawless before I try it for serious use. I have all weekend off also... so I will get it. Even if I have to make 3 more trips this weekend.
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If Kydoc was useing a 18# with the baby bunny fart loads he was cookin up then I think all service .40s should follow the same as they should all be reliable. The tac is a whole new ball game as Kydoc will soon find out when he gets his new toy back!
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Carefull on the clays I think 3.5 is max load.
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Yeah, from what the Hodgdon Manual says... it's 3.0 to 3.5 for CLAYS. I'm not even considering going that high as it only increases velocity by something like 100fps but you start getting to the edge in CUP. I've already determined that CLAYS is a great minor/IDPA load but would NEVER make major. I can play with TiteGroup for that one but one at a time. I'm about to load up 100 more rounds so I can hit the range again. I'll bring my dowel with me, just in case.
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I wouldn't go above 3.0 clays, its just not needed with a service and factory recoil spring.
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I put 90 rounds of 3.2gr CLAYS and 67 rounds of 3.3gr CLAYS down and not a single hiccup. So, after I get another decapping pin (I ordered 5 for backups) I will try the load again and hopefully have the same results. Pretty accurate and all fed, fired, and ejected. Great shooting night. If I can get next weekend off so I can do IDPA I will find another decapping pin locally so I can make more loads and try them in the next few days. 4 days, 3 range trips, 2 squibs, and 2 dirty guns later I have had a great session.
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I'm shooting 165 gr Rainier's right now and 3.0 gr of Clays would not cycle my XD or Ruger. 3.2 did better and I settled on 3.5 gr. Very nice shooting load.

After the Rainiers are gone, I have 2000 Precision Delta 165 gr fmj and still some Clays to use up before I switch to Bullseye or something else.

Do you think I will need to up the Clays a touch switching from plated to jacketed of the same weight?
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