Zero vs. Precision Black Bullets: Range Report with Pics - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

**Old School** · 10-25-2006, 03:32 PM

OK, I loaded up a batch of Precision Black Bullet, to see how they hold up against my beloved Zero Bullets. What I did was load up 20 of each bullet, each with the same specifications:

Brass: Speer
Powder Charge: 3.0gr
Power Type: TiteGroup
OAL: 1.150

Through the Chrono, the same loads using the Precision Bullets averaged 11 FPS faster, nothing huge, just something to note.

Other than the fact that the Precision were a bit for more smokey, I was happy with their performance. For the most part, they seemed to be as accurate, if not more accurate, than the Zero Bullets. I won't go as far as to say that one is more accurate than the other since I am an average shot at best and I do not own a Ransom Rest.

All of my tests were done standing, shooting off-hand, at a distance of 15 and 20 yards through my XD9 Tactical.

Here are the results to ponder...

**beardman2** · 10-25-2006, 04:34 PM

good to know. I got 3500 .40 precision bullets a month or so back and haven't reloaded one round yet!

kart racer · 10-25-2006, 05:34 PM

I use a lot of zero bullets in my 9mm too,the most accurate I've found have been loads using winchesters jhp with either unique or power pistol.

brian40 · 10-25-2006, 05:43 PM

So how did your barrel look when done with the black bullets? Dirty, or easy to clean like plated and jacketed??

Nerves · 10-25-2006, 06:14 PM

Excellent post!!!!! Thanks!

**Old School** · 10-26-2006, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian40

So how did your barrel look when done with the black bullets? Dirty, or easy to clean like plated and jacketed??

It was dirtier but the BoreSnake took care of it without any trouble. Keep in mind that most the the "dirt" is from the TiteGroup.

BTW, the cost of the Precision are significantly less than Zero Bullets. For 1000 of the Zero, the cost is about $75. The Precision in contrast are $48.

kart racer · 10-28-2006, 09:19 PM

I orderd 2000 124 gr fmj zeros from powder valley for 94.00 a couple of months ago,they're probably around 100.00 per 2000 now.
edit...just checked on 147gr,there 121.00 for 2000

**Old School** · 10-29-2006, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kart racer

edit...just checked on 147gr,there 121.00 for 2000

That is a good price for Zeros. Thanks for the link!

ampleworks · 10-29-2006, 07:46 AM

Hey Scott, I wouldn't take either of that ammo to a match that a chrono is going to be used at. There's a good chance at that low you could be shooting for no score depending on how well the match equipment mirrors yours.

Please enlighten me on where the 147s came from. There isn't any listed on the site.

**Old School** · 10-29-2006, 08:05 AM

Those were low-minor loads, not for matches. I wanted to see how the gun ran at 125 power factor. For matches, my loads run about 132 power factor (3.3 grains of TiteGroup).

They are not listed on the website, you need to call Dave for pricing and availability. Dave is supposed to update the site this month, once he gets some solid raw material costs.

10-25-2006, 03:32 PM	#1
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,626	Zero vs. Precision Black Bullets: Range Report with Pics OK, I loaded up a batch of Precision Black Bullet, to see how they hold up against my beloved Zero Bullets. What I did was load up 20 of each bullet, each with the same specifications: Brass: Speer Powder Charge: 3.0gr Power Type: TiteGroup OAL: 1.150 Through the Chrono, the same loads using the Precision Bullets averaged 11 FPS faster, nothing huge, just something to note. Other than the fact that the Precision were a bit for more smokey, I was happy with their performance. For the most part, they seemed to be as accurate, if not more accurate, than the Zero Bullets. I won't go as far as to say that one is more accurate than the other since I am an average shot at best and I do not own a Ransom Rest. All of my tests were done standing, shooting off-hand, at a distance of 15 and 20 yards through my XD9 Tactical. Here are the results to ponder... __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

10-25-2006, 04:34 PM	#2
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,950	good to know. I got 3500 .40 precision bullets a month or so back and haven't reloaded one round yet! __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

10-25-2006, 05:43 PM	#4
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10-25-2006, 06:14 PM	#5
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10-28-2006, 09:19 PM	#7
kart racer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 319	I orderd 2000 124 gr fmj zeros from powder valley for 94.00 a couple of months ago,they're probably around 100.00 per 2000 now. edit...just checked on 147gr,there 121.00 for 2000 Last edited by kart racer; 10-28-2006 at 09:21 PM.

10-25-2006, 05:34 PM	#3
kart racer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 319	I use a lot of zero bullets in my 9mm too,the most accurate I've found have been loads using winchesters jhp with either unique or power pistol.

10-29-2006, 07:46 AM	#9
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,159	Hey Scott, I wouldn't take either of that ammo to a match that a chrono is going to be used at. There's a good chance at that low you could be shooting for no score depending on how well the match equipment mirrors yours. Please enlighten me on where the 147s came from. There isn't any listed on the site. __________________ *Ampleworks*

10-29-2006, 08:05 AM	#10
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,626	Those were low-minor loads, not for matches. I wanted to see how the gun ran at 125 power factor. For matches, my loads run about 132 power factor (3.3 grains of TiteGroup). They are not listed on the website, you need to call Dave for pricing and availability. Dave is supposed to update the site this month, once he gets some solid raw material costs. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

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