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Fiocchi 123gr FMJTC "COMBAT" rounds???

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Old 09-19-2006, 11:32 PM   #1
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Fiocchi 123gr FMJTC "COMBAT" rounds???

At the last gun show where I bought my XD9, I also picked up 4 boxes of Fiocchi 9mm ammo that was going for $7/box. It's labeled "123 gr FMJTC (COMBAT)" on the box. The bullets are not normal ball ammo. They have, as the name suggests, a truncated cone to make them pointy.

I looked up the figures this ammo from a distributor's website. They claim a muzzle velocity of 1,250 ft/s and a muzzle energy of 420 ft. lbs. I'm new to this, so I'm going to ask... isn't that really high for a 9mm of its weight?

I was looking around at other ammo on the site, even some +P rounds, and none of their stated energies exceeded 397 ft. lbs. Could this just be a really hot round? Do they do this for penetration? It seems to me that the powder charge on these, combined with the cone bullet, are designed to really go through stuff. I'm kind of scared to use them.

I picked them up because I read great things about Fiocchi online. A few reviewers, not all of them American, praised it for how well it groups and how clean it burns. It's pretty darn cheap, too... and it looks well made. I think the reviews were talking about normal Fiocchi FMJ's though. Not sure.

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Old 09-20-2006, 11:09 PM   #2
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Don't all talk at once!

I didn't think a simple question about whether or not 420 ft. lbs. of energy is too much for a standard pressure 9mm round would be that hard to answer...

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Old 09-20-2006, 11:19 PM   #3
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Maybe you should have added something political to your question, or better yet, given it a political title. I'm sure you would have had a dozen responses in the first hour. They might have even gotten around to answering your question too.
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Might check to see if it's 9mm ammo meant for SMGs if so it will be too hot for you pistol.
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Hahaha, good call Ok, then...

Will these rounds penetrate the thick skull of a far-left antigunner, or should I reserve them for spotted owls? Please advise.
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Might check to see if it's 9mm ammo meant for SMGs if so it will be too hot for you pistol.
I don't think it is, but is there an easy way to find out?

I looked them up on the manufacturer's website: http://www.fiocchiusa.com/cat_centerfire.php

They actually claim 425 ft. lbs., which is 5 more than I thought. They're the ones with the stock number 9APC.

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Old 09-22-2006, 01:59 AM   #7
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I'm really disappointed no senior member on a gun forum knows the answer to such a simple question.
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:19 AM   #8
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I'm really disappointed no senior member on a gun forum knows the answer to such a simple question.
a quick search on google turned up some ballistics data for 9mm. tho most of what i have found is slower and has less energy than your fiocchi, on a chart i found black hills 124jhp +P 1306fps and 470lbs/ft muzzle energy. http://www.ballisticreview.com/9mm.html
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:23 AM   #9
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So it won't hurt my gun? I'm sorry to sound so newbie-ish, but that's what I am with regard to handguns...

By the way, thank you very much for taking some time to look up ballistic data for me.

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hehe.. my response to you.. quit being a ****** and load that ish up and fire away
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