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First Reloads in 45 ACP For XDS- Reaction And Question

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Old 03-17-2013, 06:08 PM   #1
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First Reloads in 45 ACP For XDS- Reaction And Question

I recently purchased my first reloading setup. I am set up for 45 acp, 9mm, and. 223. My first loads were for the 45 acp. After referencing several sources, my recipe was as follows:

230 grain sierra jhp
Bullseye powder 5-5.8
CCI large pistol primers

I started my load at 5 and worked up to 5.6 grains in increments of. 2 grains.

I made 10 of each load and shot them at the range and they all seemed to have more recoil than manufactured ammo I purchase.

My question is, can I go below min load to calm the kick down as long as they still eject properly?

Thanks!

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You can load down until the gun won't run, then bring it back up 2/10gr. Not sure where you got your data form, but Lyman goes all the way down to 3.8gr & max out @ 5.3gr. Speer runs hotter, but keep in mind the BE is a very fast burning powder & small changes, especially @ the top end, can really drive pressures up. At 5gr, you should be somewhere around 800fps, close to factory ball ammo.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:31 PM   #3
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I think that your loads are too hot at 5.8 gr. of Bullseye under a 230 gr. jacketed bullet. I would stay closer to 5.0 gr. of Bullseye. Where did you get your load data from?
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I think that your loads are too hot at 5.8 gr. of Bullseye under a 230 gr. jacketed bullet. I would stay closer to 5.0 gr. of Bullseye. Where did you get your load data from?
Why I asked, Speer runs very warm loads & they max @ 5.7gr. Caution is certainly warranted as many uberfast burners pressure spike when you cross max data. So there isn't such a thing as a little over max w/ such powders, very unforgiving.
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Why I asked, Speer runs very warm loads & they max @ 5.7gr. Caution is certainly warranted as many uberfast burners pressure spike when you cross max data. So there isn't such a thing as a little over max w/ such powders, very unforgiving.
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Speer data is for speer bullets only - they use a soft guilding metal that allows for a little more powder. You can not switch bullets and consider the loads safe.

You can get load data from the powder manufacturer's web sites and they are fairly conservative.

I personally like W231 for the 45ACP.
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I recently purchased my first reloading setup. I am set up for 45 acp, 9mm, and. 223. My first loads were for the 45 acp. After referencing several sources, my recipe was as follows:

230 grain sierra jhp
Bullseye powder 5-5.8
CCI large pistol primers

I started my load at 5 and worked up to 5.6 grains in increments of. 2 grains.

I made 10 of each load and shot them at the range and they all seemed to have more recoil than manufactured ammo I purchase.

My question is, can I go below min load to calm the kick down as long as they still eject properly?

Thanks!

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You might want to try a different powder. Winchester WST works well in the 45 and the recoil is different than what you get with Bullseye powder. I use WST in my XDs and it works well. My XDs seems to like a factory duplication load better than reduced loads.

Make sure you get data on the powders you use and work up a load starting at the low end of the load data.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:23 PM   #8
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The load data was taken from Modern Reloading by Richard Lee. I just double checked the data and for a 230 grain jacketed bullet the data for bullseye is 5-5.7.

Thanks everyone for your help. I am going to start low and work my way up.

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Old 03-18-2013, 03:03 AM   #9
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MK3-- From the Sierra Bullets Infinity Suite I6: Sierra .45 230 gr. JHP
Bullseye---4.0 gr= 700 fps; 4.3 gr= 750 fps; 4.6 gr= 800 fps; 4.9 gr=850 fps
MAX 5.2 gr= 900 fps
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:24 AM   #10
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Thanks for the info. I actually just found the page from sierra online and noticed I was a grain too hot. Could have been worse and now I know to make sure my data is accurate. Now time to pull some bullets!

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