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Titegroup + 45 ACP 230 gr Plated. Need Help.

This is a discussion on Titegroup + 45 ACP 230 gr Plated. Need Help. within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; Originally Posted by yoteman Fred, you are correct, I should just shelf it and forget it. My Dad grew up during the depression and he ...

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Old 07-12-2012, 11:35 PM   #21
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Fred, you are correct, I should just shelf it and forget it. My Dad grew up during the depression and he would never allow anything like that. The stuff does make the gun go boom and the lead go forward. If he were still alive he would tell me what a fool I was for not using it. As long as it does that I am willing to put up with the stuff. Loaded about 500 rounds with it so far and unfortunately still have a good bunch of it yet to go. I guess it is inspiring me to shoot more just to use it up. Perhaps I have a little, or maybe a lot of my Dad in me.
FInd someone else that wants it, it is very popular for reasons I can't figure out, but should be easy to get rid of.
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Don't give up on the TG just yet It is a fast and hot powder no doubt but it still works pretty well across calibers and there is plenty of load data available. I started out learning to reload on it and still do like it. I've got 4 lbs I am working through now between both 9 and 45. Pick up a lb or two of other powders to see how you like them and continue to use your TG until it's gone.

I would also recommend True Blue, clean, cool, meters incredible, soft shooting etc.
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Alright everyone...went and picked up some WST.

I'm finding load data from Hodgden's website that says start at 4.0 gr with a max at 4.3 behind a 230 gr plated-RN/LRN, but that was for a OAL of 1.200. Reading more online, I found people's OAL in the range on 1.200-1.265 with the average being around 1.255. The charge weights they indicated at the longer OAL were in the range of 4.3-4.7 gr of WST.

So now I am confused and would like to hear what peoples' loads are with the WST and 230 gr plated RN. I've decided my next batch of bullets are going to be 200 gr plated SWC so if anyone wants to chime in with data including that it would be appreciated too.
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I use 4.5 grains of TG under a Berry's plated 230 gr RN. My XD 45 loves this load.
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Alright everyone...went and picked up some WST.

I'm finding load data from Hodgden's website that says start at 4.0 gr with a max at 4.3 behind a 230 gr plated-RN/LRN, but that was for a OAL of 1.200. Reading more online, I found people's OAL in the range on 1.200-1.265 with the average being around 1.255. The charge weights they indicated at the longer OAL were in the range of 4.3-4.7 gr of WST.

So now I am confused and would like to hear what peoples' loads are with the WST and 230 gr plated RN. I've decided my next batch of bullets are going to be 200 gr plated SWC so if anyone wants to chime in with data including that it would be appreciated too.
The magazine is usually what dictates OAL. 1911's can run the longer OALs than most any other pistol. Start with a few "dummies" loaded to 1.200" and load them into the mag to see if they bind up or not, then hand cycle them through the gun. If they work with no issues, you can try longer dummies of use 1.200" as your OAL.
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Plated RN run 1.250"-1.265" in most guns. Always check , OAL is ALWAYs gun & bullet specific. I have tried maybe 8 diff pwoder sin 45acp, always come back to WST w/ any bullet wt or type for std vel/pressure loads.
Plated bullets actually load betweem a lead bullet & jacketed. So using lead bullet data is a good start point, never exceed jacketed data. You'll find 4.5gr under a 230gr RNP @ 1.255" to just make 0ver 800fps in a 5" gun.; 785fps for 230gr FMJ @ 825fps for 230gr LRN. My IDPA major load is 4.8gr under a 200grLTC or 5gr under a 200gr Berry's FP @ 1.220" for right @ 840fps. All are more acurate than I am in my XDTAC, very soft recoil as well.
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