reloads

[keoni008]

Ive had my XD9 for a while now and i just started to shoot my reloads, does the XD9's shoot reloads? Cause i went to the range today to try and shoot my reloads and it kept jamming, and the round wouldnt even chamber and slide wont shut all the way. I had to push the slide on the wooden table to get the round to eject cause it was stuck solid in the barrel, or i would have to SLAM on the back of the slide to chamber the round and fire it out then it would eject after it fired. My reload round specs as follows case OAL- 1.14, heads-LSWC 125g, or Sierra 115g, or Hornady XTP 115g, powder N350 at 5.0 - 6.0 grains. The weird thing is i also have a Sig P228 and these rounds shoot perfectly fine out of that gun. Maybe theres a different barrel i have to buy to shoot reloads like the Glocks, any help please thanks!

[Lopper]

STOP SHOOTING YOUR RELOADS! Your doing some thing wrong in sizing or seating/crimping. Get a couple of good reloading books and study them. ABCs of Reloading and Lee reloading are a couple. any time you have to force a gun closed or open you have big problems. And a BOMB in your hand

[Ski098]

The Semi Wad Cutter bullet Ogive is likely the problem. You have to set them back further in because the steep sides on them will hit the edge of the chamber walls.

Check out these links that explain it far better than I can:

38 Super Overall Length

Bullet Design and Feeding Reliability

Honestly for reloading 9mm my suggestion is to start with standard 124gr Round Nose. It's design lends itself to easy loading. It's a much more forgiving for OAL's and Powder Charges. Pushing bullets in deeper may resolve the issue, but it can change how the powder in the cartridge burns. Resulting in "very bad things."

Or there could be some issue with the chamber in your XD9 which is causing the round to get stuck. But with those 125gr SWC rounds I'm wondering it it isn't the ogive causing you issues.

EDIT - For any new bullet design there is a "final test" you need to perform before you fire them. Pull the barrel out of the gun and drop the bullet into the chamber. If it falls in and out without any resistance/issues then the round will chamber reliably. If it gets hung up, it's likely something with how deeply the bullet is seated.

[dglock]

Originally Posted by keoni008

Ive had my XD9 for a while now and i just started to shoot my reloads, does the XD9's shoot reloads? Cause i went to the range today to try and shoot my reloads and it kept jamming, and the round wouldnt even chamber and slide wont shut all the way. I had to push the slide on the wooden table to get the round to eject cause it was stuck solid in the barrel, or i would have to SLAM on the back of the slide to chamber the round and fire it out then it would eject after it fired. My reload round specs as follows case OAL- 1.14, heads-LSWC 125g, or Sierra 115g, or Hornady XTP 115g, powder N350 at 5.0 - 6.0 grains. The weird thing is i also have a Sig P228 and these rounds shoot perfectly fine out of that gun. Maybe theres a different barrel i have to buy to shoot reloads like the Glocks, any help please thanks!

Bullet heads? How long have you been reloading?

Stop trying to shoot those,they are out of spec!

SA are not Sigs! You have to reload for the gun you want to shoot the reloads in.

I shoot nothing but my reloads in all my hand guns and rifles.

don

[willworkforammo]

Originally Posted by Ski098

EDIT - For any new bullet design there is a "final test" you need to perform before you fire them. Pull the barrel out of the gun and drop the bullet into the chamber. If it falls in and out without any resistance/issues then the round will chamber reliably. If it gets hung up, it's likely something with how deeply the bullet is seated.

+1 on the Plunk Test! I also use a Maximum Case gauge, but the final test is the barrel. The SWC causes feeding issues in my XD45.

++1 on getting Lee's Modern Reloading. I also havce Lyman's 49th edition and both are great!

I started with FMJ-RN bullets seated at the Max OAL and they fed wonderfully. When I switched to a lighter JHP, I had to adjust the OAL. Watch for signs of excessive pressure when you decrease the OAL.

[Akimbo]

Originally Posted by keoni008

Ive had my XD9 for a while now and i just started to shoot my reloads, does the XD9's shoot reloads? Cause i went to the range today to try and shoot my reloads and it kept jamming, and the round wouldnt even chamber and slide wont shut all the way. I had to push the slide on the wooden table to get the round to eject cause it was stuck solid in the barrel, or i would have to SLAM on the back of the slide to chamber the round and fire it out then it would eject after it fired. My reload round specs as follows case OAL- 1.14, heads-LSWC 125g, or Sierra 115g, or Hornady XTP 115g, powder N350 at 5.0 - 6.0 grains. The weird thing is i also have a Sig P228 and these rounds shoot perfectly fine out of that gun. Maybe theres a different barrel i have to buy to shoot reloads like the Glocks, any help please thanks!

I will share this much: I too have had many a frustrating moments with reloading for my XDM 9. The very same issue you have described as well. Upon closer inspection, i discovered that some of the cases have expanded beyond the diameter of the barrel. Therefore, when the round is stripped from the magazine and attempts to chamber, voila... the whole action is seized up.


My two cents :
You can easily see this effect by taking your barrel out of your XD, take one of your reloads and see if it freely drops into the barrel (from the breach/feed side ) if it sticks out, or doesnt drop in freely, the case is indeed swollen.

I believe there are two possible culprits here. (at least in my case) and it may be for you too. Are you loading cases from two different firearms?

1.) As another poster offered, the crimping stage is highly suspicious to me now. I believe when i crimped a good many of these, the crimp die was set too low and caused the case to buckle or at least swell.

2.) I also have a baretta CX4 in 9mm (that fun carbine). Maybe, just maybe, when this carbine fires a round, it is causing the case to swell just a bit but enough to not fit into my XDM. The swelling is natural as the pressure builds the case will expand. I just cant believe (at least not yet) that the expansion is so great that it would not allow that spent case to chamber into my XDM. plausible though.

Please let me know how you make out with your situation and what you have done to remediate it.

As for me, i have hundreds of cases de-primed, tumbled, and case mouth expanded. I will test them one by one to see which ones drop in nicely into my XDM's barrel. The ones that do fit, will be reloaded with renewed attention to the crimping stage and again tested for a smooth drop into the barrel.

The ones that do not drop in nicely, i will then try dropping them into the barrel of my CX4. If they drop in nicely there, I am almost convinced it is scenario 2 for me. If they dont fit, then i believe the crip was set too low.

hope this helps.

[prof_fate]

All sorts of possibilties...

XDs and CZs have small leade areas so you may need to load shorter OAL than you're used to for other guns. This can cause two things to happen - too much pressure or packing the powder down (6gr of powder in a 9mm case is a lot - is there room for this? Are you swelling the case trying to make it fit?).

Are you full length resizing the cases? Have you verified that? (measure...)
Are you crimping to the proper diameter (.379-.380)?
Are you full length resizing (like lee FCD) after /during crimp?

With berry FN bullets I need to do an OAL of 1.06, with montana gold dot JHP I do a 1.12. The space under the bullets (inside the case) is the same with both bullets (124/125gr bulletd) but the MG is a longer bullet. Going any longer on either and the bullet hits the rifling and the round won't fit in the chamber.

[1st Cav]

I reload 9mm ( 147 gr.) & 40 S/W. ( 180 gr. ) XD , XDM . Sounds like your not full sizing your cases, crimp is wrong. OAL for bullet is wrong. Have to agree 6 gr. of powder is a hot load for 9mm I load Berry, Rainier, Montana Gold, and lead bullets from Mo Bullets, each has a different OAL. I test rds. in my pistol when I start, by making sure they cycle for that weapon after throwing about 3 or 4 to make sure.

[141Driver]

I reload for my XDm 5.25 and have put around 2,000 through it in about 2 months. Used to use Missouri Bullets but I got tired of the smoke from using lead bullets, and now I use Berry's plated 124 grain bullets. I agree with 1st Cav that the cases don't seem to have been resized correctly, if at all. I'm using a Dillon 550B and the first stage removes the old primer and the full downstroke also forces the case into a smaller diameter. That requires adjusting the depth the die goes to, so it nearly bottoms out. Use a case guage to verify the final product.

The bullet you're using also must be seated to a proper depth. Like Ski098 mentioned, semi-wadcutters can cause problems with the angles and the solution is usually to seat them a little bit deeper. And like he said, the 'plunk' test should settle the issue.

[KSH]

The 5.25 XDM likes a shorter AOL length. I think I'm at 1.075 with MTG 124 HPs and Berrys 124 RNs

Take your barrel out and keep adjusting your seater until the fit, then go a little more