ammo comparison (FPS and muzzle energy)This is a discussion on ammo comparison (FPS and muzzle energy) within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; Hey Guys I was wondering if anybody could provide me with a link to where i can see some comparisons of various handgun calibers muzzle ...
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05-16-2012, 09:22 PM
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ammo comparison (FPS and muzzle energy)
Hey Guys I was wondering if anybody could provide me with a link to where i can see some comparisons of various handgun calibers muzzle velocity and Fps. I am specifically looking for .45 acp ammo information. I found one site awhile back that just had a ton of diff brands of ammo on all the popular handgun calibers with their muzzle velocities and fps. My dumb self did not bookmark it.
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05-16-2012, 10:03 PM
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Read the following thread:
Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo
Keep an open mind. Don't get caught up in the bigger is better, or faster is better, etc. Take everything into consideration. Price of gun, ammo, weight, size, etc.
9mm and larger calibers are all very effective SD rounds.
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05-16-2012, 10:32 PM
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Fps and muzzle energy don't mean much when selecting a good sd ammo.
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05-17-2012, 10:13 AM
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Fps and muzzle energy don't mean much when selecting a good sd ammo.
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I think they do, otherwise every one would be carrying a .22 short!
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05-17-2012, 10:16 AM
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No because a .22 short doesn't expand to 60+ caliber and doesn't penetrate 12" minimum as long as that happens fps and energy are meaningless.
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05-17-2012, 10:20 AM
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No because a .22 short doesn't expand to 60+ caliber and doesn't penetrate 12" minimum as long as that happens fps and energy are meaningless.
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That may be so but if the load is to slow what you want won't happen! It takes a minimum of velocity to get the expansion and penetration!
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05-17-2012, 10:31 AM
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Yes velocity is what causes the bullet to penetrates but what I mean is comparing velocity and energy of available self defense ammo and making a decision from that is useless. Those super light and fast bullet have a lot of energy but they under penetrate so they are a bad choice. You can not use energy and velocity as a sole means to determine how a round will perform.
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Originally Posted by agalindo
Yes velocity is what causes the bullet to penetrates but what I mean is comparing velocity and energy of available self defense ammo and making a decision from that is useless. Those super light and fast bullet have a lot of energy but they under penetrate so they are a bad choice. You can not use energy and velocity as a sole means to determine how a round will perform.
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^^THIS^^ Vel & energy numbers are moot unless the bullet does some work. A FMJ & a JHP have the same vel/energy. The JHP does more work, a better choice. For good SD/HD ammo, buy from a reputable major manuf, they all will work to some degree. Some wrok better than others, but gunfights are won w/ skill & luck, the ammo/bullet plays only a support role. I worry more about my skill level & my situational awareness. What I have to fight w/ really doesn't matter. Having said that, I do prefer a good JHP in 45acp. 
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05-17-2012, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by agalindo
Yes velocity is what causes the bullet to penetrates but what I mean is comparing velocity and energy of available self defense ammo and making a decision from that is useless. Those super light and fast bullet have a lot of energy but they under penetrate so they are a bad choice. You can not use energy and velocity as a sole means to determine how a round will perform.
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I see what your saying but they are important. Im just using that as a start. Then I will research the ammo further. Im currently using speer gold dot short barrel ammo for my glock 36. My new carry piece is a xdm 45 compact, im thinking about buying some +p ammo and seeing how the recoil is on it. I know they have similar barrel lengths and I could use the short barrel ammo for the xdm but I was thinkin about trying out something with more velocity and energy. I will do alot of research before choosing my carry ammo for my new gun.
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05-17-2012, 04:20 PM
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Energy doesn't wound the myth of energy dump is just that a myth. Damage to tissue is done by what is directly crushed by the bullet and nothing else. A bullet with the 400 foot lbs of energy that expands and goes through a body will do more damage than a bullet that has 500 lbs of energy but only penetrates 6" into a body. The extra 100lbs of energy do nothing.
There is no shock effect.
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