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invssgt · 05-10-2006, 12:46 PM

WW USA 230 JHP is what I carry daily. It is plenty accurate-

Four of those went inside an inch, and I bet the 'flyer' wasn't because of the ammo.

It also expands regularly in water-filled jugs, and penetrates as deep as antyhing else I have tried including HydraShoks. I actually prefer this stuff to the old 185 Silvertips becuase it it'll penetrate deeper, and the 1911 just seems to work best with 230 grain loads. I'm right at 200 rounds of this stuff through my rebuilt Auto Ordnance GI, without a malf of any kind.

ParaMil · 05-10-2006, 06:20 PM

in my opinion practice ammo and PD ammo are two different things and should be looked at differently. You dont need to shoot hundreds of PD ammo before you know it works. Buy a couple boxes of good PD and try them in your gun to see that they feed well every time. If you can...shoot at some sort of medium other than paper. Water jugs are good, wet phone books, Packs of modeling clay, etc...

Then buy yourself just a few boxes to keep around. Think about it, unless you are planning for a large scale attack in which you better have a good carbine to go with that handgun, how many rounds are you expecting to have to fire in any given situation. You are not going to carry a few hundred rounds of PD ammo on you, you need a good two clips worth on you and thats all.

djturnz · 05-12-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sixgun

It is my understanding that the wwb jhp personal protection ammo is the same as there silver tips but minus the silver coating on the bullet. I tried them in my xdsc and they worked pretty good. If they work well in my cz Ill be carrying that load as they are cost efective. Like you said $$$$ is a factor for me to. I e-mailed winchester to see if they will make this load with a 124 gr bullet as I like that weight of projectile. When I hear back from them Ill post it here. With ammo cost on the rise we have to get the most bang for the buck. Have a good one.

Sixgun

I am pretty sure that Walmart carries WWB in 9mm 124gr Hollow point. I bought the 147gr and my Keltec wouldn't cycle it. I went back to see if they had a lighter bullet and I'm pretty sure 124gr is what I found. My XD SC however doesn't mind the 147gr at all.

vafish · 05-13-2006, 05:05 AM

In the last 10-20 years bullet designs have made a huge progression.

I wouldn't use WWB FMJ ammo for self defense, not because it's inexpensive but because it is FMJ. JHP is much better choice.

The WWB JHP designs are pretty decent performers. No you don't get quite as much expansion as the premium stuff. But it is much better than FMJ ammo. And much better than regular JHP's of a few years ago.

I shoot off my carry ammo occasionally at the range and when I don't have any to replace it I use WWB JHP's (.45 ACP in a Glock 36). I guess I'd call WWB JHP's my secondary carry ammo.

I think having a reliable JHP is more important than results of gelatain tests. If WWB it all you can afford to shoot in your gun, then as long as it function reliably you should be fine as long as you place your shots well.

All to often us shooters seem to focus on the hardware ( bullet peformance type of gun, holster, ect..) instead of the software (what's in your brain from your training). Your performance, your shot placement, will be more important than how much your JHP opens up.

Boma · 05-13-2006, 09:16 AM

Cops carry FMJ it works for them. =)

vafish · 05-15-2006, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Boma

Cops carry FMJ it works for them. =)

Cops where?

Every major LE department I know of carries JHP's with the exception of Chicago which I belive uses Federal EFMJ.

malkore · 05-16-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boma

Cops carry FMJ it works for them. =)

According to an article I read, cops are restricted to FMJ...it works for them because it HAS to.

i've tested expansion on WWB jhp 9mm and I would trust it for self defense. FMJ in 9mm can so easily pass through soft tissue 'cleanly', and not stop your attacker.

JHP, and don't stop after 1 round.

azdave · 05-16-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by malkore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boma

Cops carry FMJ it works for them. =)

According to an article I read, cops are restricted to FMJ...it works for them because it HAS to.

i've tested expansion on WWB jhp 9mm and I would trust it for self defense. FMJ in 9mm can so easily pass through soft tissue 'cleanly', and not stop your attacker.

JHP, and don't stop after 1 round.

What cops are those? The cops I know carry Gold Dots. Most GI's carry FMJ because of the Geneva Convention.

05-10-2006, 12:46 PM	#11
invssgt XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,413	WW USA 230 JHP is what I carry daily. It is plenty accurate- Four of those went inside an inch, and I bet the 'flyer' wasn't because of the ammo. It also expands regularly in water-filled jugs, and penetrates as deep as antyhing else I have tried including HydraShoks. I actually prefer this stuff to the old 185 Silvertips becuase it it'll penetrate deeper, and the 1911 just seems to work best with 230 grain loads. I'm right at 200 rounds of this stuff through my rebuilt Auto Ordnance GI, without a malf of any kind. __________________ It ain't personal. Nothing contained herein is intended is to offend the immature, retarded, hyper-sensitive, emotionally/hormonally unstable, or otherwise easily-offended. But if it does- don't cry to me. I don't care. "Sarge" www.thesixgunjournal.net http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/ LOCK & LOAD the VOTE!

05-13-2006, 05:05 AM	#14
vafish XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,469	In the last 10-20 years bullet designs have made a huge progression. I wouldn't use WWB FMJ ammo for self defense, not because it's inexpensive but because it is FMJ. JHP is much better choice. The WWB JHP designs are pretty decent performers. No you don't get quite as much expansion as the premium stuff. But it is much better than FMJ ammo. And much better than regular JHP's of a few years ago. I shoot off my carry ammo occasionally at the range and when I don't have any to replace it I use WWB JHP's (.45 ACP in a Glock 36). I guess I'd call WWB JHP's my secondary carry ammo. I think having a reliable JHP is more important than results of gelatain tests. If WWB it all you can afford to shoot in your gun, then as long as it function reliably you should be fine as long as you place your shots well. All to often us shooters seem to focus on the hardware ( bullet peformance type of gun, holster, ect..) instead of the software (what's in your brain from your training). Your performance, your shot placement, will be more important than how much your JHP opens up. __________________ \"If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees. If your plan is for one hundred years, educate children.\" -- Confucius

05-13-2006, 09:16 AM	#15
Boma XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 685	Cops carry FMJ it works for them. =) __________________ The art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable. -Sun Tzu

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05-10-2006, 06:20 PM	#12
ParaMil XDTalk Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Collin County, TX Posts: 22	in my opinion practice ammo and PD ammo are two different things and should be looked at differently. You dont need to shoot hundreds of PD ammo before you know it works. Buy a couple boxes of good PD and try them in your gun to see that they feed well every time. If you can...shoot at some sort of medium other than paper. Water jugs are good, wet phone books, Packs of modeling clay, etc... Then buy yourself just a few boxes to keep around. Think about it, unless you are planning for a large scale attack in which you better have a good carbine to go with that handgun, how many rounds are you expecting to have to fire in any given situation. You are not going to carry a few hundred rounds of PD ammo on you, you need a good two clips worth on you and thats all.