Is this normal? Winchester Super X Silver Tip JHP

[agalindo]

The flat point on these make a good choice.

[rayikeo2]

I have a .380 and will not use any self defense ammo that is not either bonded or is solid material. Case seperation greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the little .380. Those bullets you have are for target practice only.

[Boris]

Originally Posted by rayikeo2

I have a .380 and will not use any self defense ammo that is not either bonded or is solid material. Case seperation greatly diminishes the effectiveness of the little .380. Those bullets you have are for target practice only.

I always believed case seperation from the projectile was a favorable thing......

True story here now folks... I worked part time behind a gun counter for 3.5 years. Some guy mad as heck came in one day FURIOUS that only half the bullet was shooting out the gun when he fired it. He told us half the bullet would come out when he worked the bolt. It was a 7mm Rem mag. Three of us looked at the guy confused, very confused. He was bright enough to see our confusion. He then pulled from his pocket the other half of the bullets......

He showed us the fired, empty cases. We all broke out in some good laughter.

Some other guy bought a Glock 22. He brought it back the next day asking us how to load the magazine. He could not figure out why the 22lr rimfire rounds he had would not load.......



I know what you meant, I think you just typed it the wrong way lol....

Anyway it reminded me of some fun times sellin' guns to some real 'experts'. Couldn't tell you how many complaints from defective scopes I got from people that mounted them backwards. One guy even missed 3 deer before he brought the rifle and mounted scope in.......

Oh and FWIW. If a jacket seperates, guess what. The core keeps penetrating. The jacket does not contain fairy dust that allows it to penetrate deeper just because it is still on the lead core. Like I said earlier. Other than a bonded jacket, just about all hollowpoints will shed a jacket whan fired into nothing but water.......

[agalindo]

Well the jacket separation in an SD round is frowned upon because it causes the projectile to lose weight, less weight less penetration. The jacket helps keep the soft lead in tack and helps the expansion to stay at the desired maximum by providing a harder more ridged support. It also has the nice sharp edges that help the round cut.

[fredj338]

Originally Posted by agalindo

Well the jacket separation in an SD round is frowned upon because it causes the projectile to lose weight, less weight less penetration. The jacket helps keep the soft lead in tack and helps the expansion to stay at the desired maximum by providing a harder more ridged support. It also has the nice sharp edges that help the round cut.

Depending on the caliber, I don't see jacket sep as all bad. The jacket on a 230gr/45acp weighs less than 30gr. That sill leaves a 200gr lead core, hopefully at least deformed some & a jacket taking separate wound channels. I wouldn't want to lose the core on a 115gr 9mm, but big bore bullets, I don't think it's all the drama that some do.
BTW Agalindo, I didn't know anyone made a FPFMJ 380, certainly would get my voite if I ever chose a 380 again. I still like the other JHP I mentioned, but that would certianly be better than smooth RNFMJ.