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.40 Cal home defense ammo

This is a discussion on .40 Cal home defense ammo within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; Originally Posted by surfish95747 I agree with you Cuda. I've always thought, if you are to the point of shooting at someone (home defense/personal defense), ...


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Old 06-24-2010, 11:04 AM   #61
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I agree with you Cuda. I've always thought, if you are to the point of shooting at someone (home defense/personal defense), you are not shooting to wound or incapacitate, but you are shooting to kill. Not that we are all blood thirsty, thats just the extreme that you are already at. This has been an awesome thread and discussion thank guys. I have a pretty clear pictuire on what is needed to keep me and my family safe.
Well, actually...I'm shooting to make them stop whatever they're doing that made me decide to shoot them, not necessarily to kill.

If the live through it, fine. If they don't, well...that's the way things go when large caliber rounds strike center mass.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:20 AM   #62
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Is this for real or is this fake? I'm sure some of you have seen this vid. This shows when you get hit by the .50 you'd blow up to peices. YouTube - 50 cal sniper rifle

All this talk of knock down factor and the .50 BMG get's brought up? The .50 BMG was designed to take out hard mobil targets like flippin tanks. I was watching a show on History Channel where sniper's who used the .50 on soft targets said that it usually resulted in a huge spray of blood.
It kinda was a sidetrack of the recoil energy equalling projectile energy discussion...and the .50BMG really has nothing to do with the effectiveness of a .40S&W round.

These aren't the droids you're looking for...move along, move along.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:27 AM   #63
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It kinda was a sidetrack of the recoil energy equalling projectile energy discussion...and the .50BMG really has nothing to do with the effectiveness of a .40S&W round.

These aren't the droids you're looking for...move along, move along.
I agree. I just couldn't help but throw that in there.

I'll have to agree with you and Agalindo on sticking to the FBI research and conclusion.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:33 AM   #64
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It won't be when it strikes an assailant you want to stop and fails miserably.

Get some real ammo. That frangible crap is for mall ninjas.

+1 Mall ninja ammo
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:49 AM   #65
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Not only that but it's been proven that it's not blended metal they are just plain lead and gilding metal bullets pushed at extreme velocity and above SAAMI specs. They are no more deadly than any light fast bullet. For varmints it's great for larger targets it under penetrates.
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Old 06-24-2010, 11:38 PM   #66
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If someone breaks into my home they will get a chest full of lead from the weatherby. The night stand gun(XDm) has the RCBS. I have 2 small children, and over-penetration is a big worry for me.
I only ever carry the Glock, and it is loaded with 147 GR Speer Gold DOTS for that duty.
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i carry buffalo bore ammo that has a 180grain gold dot projectile @ 1100 FPS

they also make a 155 at 1300fps

but i prefer the heaver projectile.

this ammo is definitely hotter then the factory gold dots
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If someone breaks into my home they will get a chest full of lead from the weatherby. The night stand gun(XDm) has the RCBS. I have 2 small children, and over-penetration is a big worry for me.
I only ever carry the Glock, and it is loaded with 147 GR Speer Gold DOTS for that duty.
You don't seem to get it.

Those RCBS rounds are the worst of both worlds--they go through wallboard like an FMJ, but don't penetrate flesh to get deep enough to stop.

You're fooling yourself if you think you're keeping anyone safe with those...
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Agreed that mall Nina crap is worthless.
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Knock down is real

I agree that a deer well shot often runs a ways. The situation with humans in my experience in combat does point to knock down on real people. Without going into a war story, I shot a North Vietnamese Sapper. One of my men nicked him with 40mm canister (about the same as 12 gauge 00 Buck). He stood up immediately. I hit him in the center of his chest with a 5.56 tracer. As he was going down two of my men hit him in the side of his chest with 5.56 ball.

Not to disagree with everyone, in this fight and others, men will go down with one shot when hit well. The issue is F=MA (Force = Mass X Acceleration). With a good bullet, there is good penetration and an apparent good wound cavity.

With a pistol bullet there should be more mass (in some cases) with much lower velocity. The issue is bullet placement based on lots of training.
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