Plinking/target VS Self Defense Ammo.

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I doubt manufactured vs handloads would make much difference in criminal charges, the real danger with the reloads is when the dead guy's family sues you in civil court.

It's an unfortunate fact that in this country today if you shoot someone, even in perfectly justifiable & legal self-defense, even if you don't face criminal charges, you are going to be sued in civil court. Guilt or innocence means nothing in civil trials, where they just want to take your money and most of what you'll make for the rest of your life. Look at O.J for example, he was cleared in criminal court (yeah I know, but that's what happened..) but he lost in civil court & he'll never be a millionaire again because the victims families took nearly every dime he had and get a large percentage of anything he will ever make in the future.

A good civil trial lawyer will make a handloader look like a mad scientist, spending hundreds of dollars and many hours developing ammunition to kill with. Unless you get VERY lucky with a jury both pro-gun and knowledgable of handloading, you'll likely pay dearly.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Look at O.J for example, he was cleared in criminal court (yeah I know, but that's what happened..) but he lost in civil court & he'll never be a millionaire again because the victims families took nearly every dime he had and get a large percentage of anything he will ever make in the future.

Where the hell did you get that bunch of crap from? He moved every dime he had into his momma's bank account (and elsewhere) and never paid the Goldman's much more than a damn dime. He lives in a few million dollar estate in Florida. Ya he's real broke. God that was a dumb statement to make.

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Fatman, I was using the example of OJ losing in civil court after winning in criminal court to make a point about lawsuits & civil courts. The modern realities of our countries legal system is something to consider when making choices on self-defense. What he is or is not doing today is totally irrelevant in the question of handloads vs factory ammo. Maybe you should be browsing a different forum if you can't comprehend the topics in this one..

[one-eyed-fatman]

Sorry, didn't realize you were just making **** up to make a point. Reread what the rooster said. There was no made up crap in what he said. What he said was straight forward and to the point.

[brrr]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

Sorry, didn't realize you were just making **** up to make a point.

If you would like to dispute the fact that OJ won a criminal trial, then lost a civil court case, please enlighten...

If he is indeed living in a multi-million dollar mansion as you claim, I'm willing to bet it's not in his name. He lost every cent he had to the victims families (& rightfully so IMHO, but that's irrelevant) and was even forced to sell off his homes and eveything he owned to include memorabilia, trophies, old uniforms,etc and give the money to those families (and thier lawyers of course). They still get a large percentage of every dollar he earns, and likely always will.

I don't really care about Simpson's current financial status, & I won't respond to anymore of your juvenile flames. You can't seem to grasp the meaning of the post so again, maybe you should browse another forum.

[one-eyed-fatman]

If he is indeed living in a multi-million dollar mansion as you claim, I'm willing to bet it's not in his name.

Now your starting to get it.

Sorry for the thread thrift beardman2. Go with what the rooster said and forget the homemade lawyer crap. I plan to start reloading for 45 in the (hopefully near) future myself.

[beardman2]

The original topic had to do with how important it was to practice with what your going to use for self defense. Not whether you should use reloads in a self defense situation.

[one-eyed-fatman]

When you said:

But now that I'll be reloading I'm expecting to whip up some pricey rounds for self defence.

You opened up the thread to talk about lawsuits using reloads for self defense.