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40 S&W recoil - 165 gr. vs. 180 gr.

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Old 12-10-2009, 02:26 PM   #1
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40 S&W recoil - 165 gr. vs. 180 gr.

After a year shooting an XD-9 Service, I recently moved to an XD-40 service. Put in a Don's guide rod with 22# spring.

The first rounds I shot were Federal 40 180 grain FMJ. Used them up and recently bought a box of Winchester 40 165 grain FMJ. Went out and shot about 30 rounds today in between snow storms. I'd swear there was less recoil with the 165 grain Winchester. All things being equal, will a smaller weight bullet (15 grains), in the same caliber, produce less recoil?

Opinions and comments always welcome. Thanks.
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I tried both too...couldn't feel any difference. Reckon lighter weight at higher velocity produces much the same degree of push. Might even whip barrel faster? I couldn't discern any difference except for the print on the box.
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Light bullets are snappier than heavy bullets. Heavy bullets have a slower recoil pulse.
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:08 PM   #4
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I've shot both and in my opinion, the 165s and 180s kick about the same in target ammo, the 165s seem to kick less for me in defense ammo.
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I find the 165gr snapier than the 180s.
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"All things being equal" are the key words.
If EVERYTHING is the same EXCEPT the bullet weight, the lighter bullet will have less recoil. No doubt about it. Simple Physics.
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Yes if all things are equal but I doubt that the 165gr bullet is being pushed at the same vel as the 180gr and that it's the same powder and charge.
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"All things being equal" are the key words.
If EVERYTHING is the same EXCEPT the bullet weight, the lighter bullet will have less recoil. No doubt about it. Simple Physics.
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This is true. As Agalindo points out, rarely do you see lighter bullets moving the same speed as heavies, but there are some 165gr that are faster than others & those will have a bit more snap.
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Back when I had my .40, I really couldn't tell the difference.
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I have a S&W 4013 Alloy .40 everything seem snappy in that compared to my XD9 or XD45. I cant tell the difference between 165's and 180's though.
The alloy frame just doesn't have the mass to absorb it. I just put in a Wolf 19lb recoil spring (16 is std) and a pair of Hogue Wood grips. So we will see if that takes some of the snap out. If it doesn't it sure looks prettier now...LOL
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