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This is a discussion on Steel bullets within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; Here is my problem. At the outdoor range, they will not allow steel bullets. ( Issue with brushfires and causing a spark with the plates. ...


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Old 11-16-2009, 01:07 PM   #1
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Steel bullets

Here is my problem. At the outdoor range, they will not allow steel bullets. ( Issue with brushfires and causing a spark with the plates.

I would like to shoot my 7.62 and XD's at this range. I typically use Wolf ammo to keep the cost down.

Question is: What is the cheapest non-steel rounds that are still non-corrosive. I have been trying to figure this out, but the descriptions are not clear.

I think Fiocchi might be the answer, but are silver bear, or golden tiger non-steel?

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I think all the Russian made stuff is steel w/ copper plating. S&B or Privi I believe are cooper o/ lead.
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In the XD, not so much of an issue. Just buy US-made ammo (WWB, Fed Champ/Blazer/Am Eagle, RGB) and you'll be peachy. IIRC, a lot of the wolf/bear handgun ammo just has a copper jacket, but a lot of ranges just flat-out balk at steel cases. YMMV.

For the 7.62--and I assume that you mean x39--pretty much all wolf/bear/tiger/yak ammo has a "bimetal jacket"...which is gilding alloy over steel...no go at your range.

Fiocchi would be fine, as would pretty much anything made by a US manufacturer.
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I went to my local fun shop with a magnet and tested all the .223 he had and the magnet stuck to every brand he had, Remington, WWB, Prvi, and I forget the rest. That's the problem, the range touches the bullet (not the case) with the magnet and if it sticks they send you back to the car. This is basically anything .223 and up in rifle calibers, they never ask or look twice with any handgun cal's.
I have the same problem at a local state run range so I go to another state provided area, but it's unmanned (FUN!) and no ammo restrictions.

I do mean to ask at this range, I see ALOT of folks with SKS's, deer rifles, etc.., and find out what brands their shooting since I can't seem to find anything that doesn't get the magnet.
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Perhaps you wanna consider reloads? :-S
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Just go get some of the Yugo surplus 7.62x39 . . . no bimetal jacket there, just plain lead and copper.

Yes, it's corrosive. No big deal. Don't be afraid of corrosive . . . it just means that you need to clean your gun every time you shoot it, and that will include running some water through the barrel and gas tube.

I shoot Yugo corrosive in my AK because my range requires that I use brass cases.
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I think the Yugo is probably the best bet. I will have to be better at cleaning right away and not wait a day or so.

I have heard about dumping windex down the barrel, water too? Should I disassemble the gas tube when doing this or just keep it in place? Is there something special about windex or will any commercial window cleaner work. After I do this, do I run some Hoppes down?

I haven't come up with a thread about this procedure under a search.

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Hot, soapy water or windex will do...basically, you want to dissolve the corrosive salts left by the primers, and it's water (windex is mostly water, btw) that does this.

Go through the normal cleaning regimen after--patches, brushes, etc--using hoppes 9, breakfree, whatever you use.

Fwiw, Gunzilla is a water-based gun cleaner, and I've used it after shooting corrosive ammo w/o the water or windex flush...no rusting/pitting at all. Good stuff.
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