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Calling all 45acp reloaders

This is a discussion on Calling all 45acp reloaders within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; I use precison bullets, poly coated 200 grn LRN over Universal powder and as far as primers, anything I can get at this point. I ...


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Old 08-26-2009, 07:46 AM   #11
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I use precison bullets, poly coated 200 grn LRN over Universal powder and as far as primers, anything I can get at this point. I like the precision bullets, they are clean and fairly cheap if bought in large enough bulk. Universal works well in my 40, 45 and shotguns so I buy it in large bulk to reduce the hazmat shipping.
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Old 08-26-2009, 07:50 AM   #12
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230gr. LRN
4.2gr of red dot
Winchester or CCI primers

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125gr. lrn
4.2gr of red dot
Winchester or CCI primers
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:45 AM   #13
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When I started shooting USPSA I used the same H&G #68 200 gr. SWC bullet I used when I shot Bullseye but I was unsatisfied with the reliability. (even my prized customized Springfield 1911 would occasionally choke on them, but only during a match at the most inopportune times)

I then switch to a “ball” profile round nose 230 gr. for the reliability and the way the heaver bullet took down steel but I was dissatisfied with the accuracy at the 50 yard “standards” stage so prevalent back then.

I then stumbled upon the 225 gr. FP bullet from MastercastHome Page in Enon valley Pa. very similar to the bullet jfdavis described. This bullet was almost as accurate as the old SWC’s I was shooting with the reliability of the round nose profile.

I currently use a Poly/Moly coated style of this bullet from Bear Creek for the reduced smoke.

For powder I use Winchester Super Target because it’s as accurate as Bullseye (for me) but burns way cleaner.

My current load is:
Bear Creek 230 gr. FP Poly/Moly coated
4.1 gr. WST
OAL 1.200
Brass: mixed
Vel: 750 f.p.s.

Hope this helps.

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Old 08-26-2009, 09:37 AM   #14
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I've loaded many powders in the 45acp & the best to date is WST. Burns clean, great accuracy w/ lead or plated or jacketd. The recoil is softer than equiv. vel. loads using other powders. Primers, anything you can get. Federal for finicky pistols w/ tuned actions that have light hammer falls. Cases, I use mixed w/ lead bullets, for jakcketed, delete RP brass form your loading. Bullets, I shoot so many diff. kinds, but a cast 200grLSWC was std. for all my 1911s. They feed poorly in the XD so now I am shooting commercial cast 200grLRNFP or 230grRNL or cast 200grLFP. The Berry's TC or FP feed great in the XD & any 1911. Accuracy is fine, just don;t over crimp plated bullets as accuracy suffers.
Just for Tard & JSG, I do NOT like TG or Clays for newb reloaders. TG occupies too little space in the large 45acp case & I have gotten wierd pressure spikes using CLays in anything but mousefart loads. If you want cheap, accurate & clean, it's WST. If you want to push max loads, it's Unive. or WSF, but Unique works too, just dirtier.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:28 AM   #15
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I have a XD 45 Tactical with tungsten guide rod, the extra weight helps. Also an extended mag release, nothing else.

For indoor range shooting I use 230 grain RN Rainer, outdoor 230 grain LRN. I also use WST, Winchester Super Target, 4.5 grains. I tried Clays but it was dirtier and seemed to give the gun more kick. Its a bit odd since what I have read says that faster burning powders at lower chargers is supposed to produce less recoil. I tried a few others but WST is what works best for me. For primers I prefer Winchester LP. Mainly Starline brass with others mixed in.

I use RN bullets for reliability. I used Precision Bullets in 200 RNF and 230 RNF, both were reliable and had no issues.

Here is an interesting article on Powders.
How To Use A Burn-Rate Chart
By Lane Pearce
Shooting Times

Heres another, I know its about 38 super but the same principles should apply. Recoil

Relative Burn Rate
Listed From Fastest to Slowest
1. Norma R1
2. Winchester WAALite
3. VihtaVuori N310
4. Alliant e3
5. Hodgdon Titewad
6. Alliant Red Dot
7. Hodgdon Clays
8. IMR Hi-Skor 700-X
9. Alliant Bullseye
10. Hodgdon Titegroup
11. Alliant American Select
12. Accurate Arms Solo 1000
13. Alliant Green Dot
14. IMR Trial Boss
15. Winchester Super Handicap
16. Hodgdon International
17. IMR PB
18. VihtaVuori N320
19. Winchester WST
20. Accurate Arms No. 2
21. IMR SR7625
22. Hodgdon HP-38
23. Winchester 231
24. Alliant 20/28
25. Alliant Unique
26. Hodgdon Universal
27. Alliant Power Pistol
28. VihtaVuori N330
29. Alliant Herco
30. Winchester WSF
31. VihtaVuori N340
32. IMR Hi-Skor 800-X
33. IMR SR4756
34. Accurate Arms No. 5
35. Hodgdon HS-6
36. VihtaVuori 3N37
37. VihtaVuori N350
38. Hodgdon HS-7
39. VihtaVuori 3N38
40. Alliant Blue Dot
41. Accurate Arms No. 7
42. Hodgdon Longshot
43. Alliant 410
44. Alliant 2400
45. Accurate Arms No. 9
46. Norma R123
47. VihtaVuori N110
48. Hodgdon Lil’Gun
49. Hodgdon H110
50. Winchester 296
51. IMR IMR-4227
52. Hodgdon H4227
53. IMR SR4759
54. Accurate Arms 1680
55. Norma 200
56. Alliant Reloder 7
57. IMR IMR-4198
58. Hodgdon H4198
59. VihtaVuori N120
60. Hodgdon H322
61. Accurate Arms 2015BR
62. VihtaVuori N130
63. IMR IMR-3031
64. VihtaVuori N133
65. Hodgdon Benchmark
66. Hodgdon H335
67. Accurate Arms 2230
68. Accurate Arms 2460
69. Hodgdon H4895
70. VihtaVuori N530
71. IMR IMR-4895
72. VihtaVuori N135
73. Alliant Reloder 12
74. IMR IMR-4320
75. Accurate Arms 2495BR
76. IMR IMR-4064
77. Norma 202
78. Accurate Arms 2520
79. Alliant Reloder 15
80. VihtaVuori N140
81. Hodgdon Varget
82. Winchester 748
83. Hodgdon BL-C(2)
84. Hodgdon H380
85. IMR IMR-4007SSC
86. VihtaVuori N540
87. Winchester 760
88. Hodgdon H414
89. VihtaVuori N150
90. Accurate Arms 2700
91. IMR IMR-4350
92. Hodgdon H4350
93. Accurate Arms 4350
94. Norma 204
95. Hodgdon Hybrid 100V
96. VihtaVuori N550
97. Alliant Reloder 19
98. IMR IMR-4831
99. Accurate Arms 3100
100. VihtaVuori N160
101. Hodgdon H4831 & H4831SC
102. Winchester Supreme 780
103. Norma MRP
104. Alliant Reloder 22
105. VihtaVuori N560
106. VihtaVuori N165
107. IMR IMR-7828
108. VihtaVuori N170
109. Hodgdon H1000
110. Hodgdon Retumbo
111. VihtaVuori N570
112. Accurate Arms 8700
113. Hodgdon H870
114. VihtaVuori 24N41
115. Hodgdon H50BMG
116. Hodgdon US869
117. VihtaVuori 20N29
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I have a XD 45 Tactical with tungsten guide rod, the extra weight helps. Also an extended mag release, nothing else.

For indoor range shooting I use 230 grain RN Rainer, outdoor 230 grain LRN. I also use WST, Winchester Super Target, 4.5 grains. I tried Clays but it was dirtier and seemed to give the gun more kick. Its a bit odd since what I have read says that faster burning powders at lower chargers is supposed to produce less recoil. I tried a few others but WST is what works best for me. For primers I prefer Winchester LP. Mainly Starline brass with others mixed in.
That load is exactly my 230grLRN load, very soft shooting @ just over 800fps from my TAC. Something about the WST, even at sim. vel. it's felt recoil is less than other powders like W231, WSF, etc.
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Old 08-31-2009, 10:41 PM   #17
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I have a XD 45 Tactical with tungsten guide rod, the extra weight helps. Also an extended mag release, nothing else.

For indoor range shooting I use 230 grain RN Rainer, outdoor 230 grain LRN. I also use WST, Winchester Super Target, 4.5 grains. I tried Clays but it was dirtier and seemed to give the gun more kick. Its a bit odd since what I have read says that faster burning powders at lower chargers is supposed to produce less recoil. I tried a few others but WST is what works best for me. For primers I prefer Winchester LP. Mainly Starline brass with others mixed in.

I use RN bullets for reliability. I used Precision Bullets in 200 RNF and 230 RNF, both were reliable and had no issues.
Thanks DannyG, that Burn rate chart and associated article is quite informative. It's a great reference and I printed the entire article out and it is now with my other reference material.
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Just an FYI for everyone, I just got my Berry's Bullets (1K of 230gr Plated RN) and I was able to pick up 1200 Winchester LP Primers locally and as I said earlier I got about 1.5 lbs. of Alliant Power Pistol when I bought the used Dillon RL550B press. So, It looks like maybe this week-end I'll be able to load up my first batch of probably 100-150 so we can try them out in the 3, 45's we have around here and see how they work out.
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Just an FYI for everyone, I just got my Berry's Bullets (1K of 230gr Plated RN) and I was able to pick up 1200 Winchester LP Primers locally and as I said earlier I got about 1.5 lbs. of Alliant Power Pistol when I bought the used Dillon RL550B press. So, It looks like maybe this week-end I'll be able to load up my first batch of probably 100-150 so we can try them out in the 3, 45's we have around here and see how they work out.
I wouldn't load 100rds of anything new. You really need to do load work ups in 5-10rd batches, use the middle average data & work up or down in 0,1gr increments. When shooting them, note accuracy, how complete the bowder burns, feeding & functioning & of course any obvious pressure signs. Nothing worse than pulling 95 rounds that don't work.
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I wouldn't load 100rds of anything new. You really need to do load work ups in 5-10rd batches, use the middle average data & work up or down in 0,1gr increments. When shooting them, note accuracy, how complete the bowder burns, feeding & functioning & of course any obvious pressure signs. Nothing worse than pulling 95 rounds that don't work.
How does one check for these things? I just figured I'd load somewhere between 30 and 50 per pistol, but I see where you're coming from so, I guess I will only load 5 or so per pistol and see how that goes.
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