Speer Gold Dot ?This is a discussion on Speer Gold Dot ? within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; This thinking does not seem to follow logic or common sense. Which, I understand might actaully seem to MAKE sense as a tactic when dealing ...
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06-01-2009, 03:55 PM
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This thinking does not seem to follow logic or common sense. Which, I understand might actaully seem to MAKE sense as a tactic when dealing with some of the buerocracy I've seen in action. Not trying to hijack the thread or start a debate.
S0.... back on track. I use the Gold Dots when I carry, LOL 
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06-01-2009, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by knightse
lawyers/ammo - If I'm in a self-defense situation and have a clearly identified threat/target, I do not see how what kind of ammo I have could possibly be a contributing factor in any court case in any way. What if I didn't have a gun and only had a rock? Would the argument then go:
"Well your honor, he defended himself with a REALLY BIG rock."?
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Its not the legality but rather the brush the prosecutor or the plaintiffs attorney can paint your character with. Than can make you look like someone who was just itching to kill someone and use your use of super powerful reloads to make that point. Regardless of rather your reloads were any different than factory ammo at all. All they have to do is convince people too stupid to get off jury duty.
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06-01-2009, 04:10 PM
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from wiki:
Handloaded ammunition is not recommended for defensive use. Experts point to potential legal liabilities that the shooter incurs if using handloaded ammunition for defense, such as an implied malice on the part of the shooter, as the use of handloaded ammunition may give the impression that "regular bullets weren't deadly enough". [23] Additionally, forensic reconstruction of a shooting relies on using identical ammunition from the manufacturer, where handloaded ammunition cannot be guaranteed identical to the ammunition used in the shooting, since "the defendant literally manufactured the evidence". [23]
It makes sense to me. I only use premium factory JHP's for defense. Others may choose not to, and that's their call...but I've yet to hear an overwhelmingly good reason for using handloads for carry/defense.
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06-01-2009, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by agalindo
What the Winchester numbers mean is that the bullet will go through two layers of drywall and hit and penetrate ballistics gel to a depth of 11.3 inches not that it will penetrate 11.3 inches of drywall. Same thing for the denim, sheetmetal, and autoglass.
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That makes a LOT more sense, thanks for the clarification. Doesn't answer the question at hand, though... looks like I need to pick up some scrap drywall from work and make it happen 
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06-01-2009, 04:38 PM
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06-01-2009, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by agalindo
Alaskapopo is right never trust any SD ammo without testing it in your weapon first.
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I even test revolver ammo! Anything short of that is just foolish. A min. of one full carry mag each & at least two cyl. full on a rev. Rotate carry ammo out every 6mos, HD every year. So a box of 50 will get you by for awhile.
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06-02-2009, 02:19 PM
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Yeah, test everything!!!!
For what it's worth, I like the Ranger T, the HST and the gold dot in that order but, others may have different opinions. They're all very affective.
I keep my 45acp loaded with Ranger T +P 230gr. ( RA45TP )
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