Help me decide!

[lutheranpriest]

I've got a WASR 10/63 on layaway that I'm breaking out of prison this next week. Many of the complaints aren't due to Romarm, but Century Arms. Fortunately mine, which was the last one on hand, has a perfectly straight FSB and gas tube. It comes with the Tapco G2 trigger group which is a huge improvement over the old POS Century trigger, and a Tapco side-folder. The Tapco buttstock isn't the best, and it will stay until I find a need or an itch to replace it.

$500 right now for any AK is a good price. Prior to 11/4, it would have been a rip-off. I'm kicking myself that I didn't pick up a single-stack for $300 a few months ago when this same dealer had an order for 300. They pre-sold 200, sold the remaining within a day or so, then had 300 rain checks. If they ever get more in, I'll probably pick up a few and make a decent profit. But I'm not holding my breath!

WASR's aren't as pretty as other AK's, but then again, since an AK is intended as a battle rifle, who buys them because they are pretty? I thought people bought them because they are inexpensive and it pisses off liberals! Besides, if you ever wanted an involved project, you could remove the rivets of the reciever, get it, barrel, reciever cover, and gas tube parkerized or blued, then get a decent set of furniture. I bought mine as a pre-emptive purchase against the possibility of a new AWB or superfluous tax.

If you can find a good deal on a single-stack WASR, get it. The only difference between the single and double is the magwell is opened up on the double-stack to accomidate the larger magazines, something most decent gun smiths should be able to do, and probably with more care than Century! I came across a while back someone making high capacity 30-rd mags for the single-stack variants, which would mean no machining to open the magweel, but you wouldn't be able to use standard high-cap AK mags, which are cheap if you can find them.

[Kaboom]

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[blefferd]

best bet would be to get a saiga and convert it. or if you can find a Saiga Legion get that and convert it.

word on the street is they are going to be importing a bunch of 5,45 Saiga's along with some x54r Saiga's. dont know when or if its true though...

I would take a 5,45 AK over a 7,62 AK any day. recoil is much more plesant, ammo is alot cheaper, much more accurate round. down side to the 5,45 is it relys entirely on imported ammo, and mags are pretty expensive now days.

you dont have to pay high ass price's for AK's you can still get good deals out there you just have to search for them

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by blefferd

best bet would be to get a saiga and convert it. or if you can find a Saiga Legion get that and convert it.

word on the street is they are going to be importing a bunch of 5,45 Saiga's along with some x54r Saiga's. dont know when or if its true though...

I would take a 5,45 AK over a 7,62 AK any day. recoil is much more plesant, ammo is alot cheaper, much more accurate round. down side to the 5,45 is it relys entirely on imported ammo, and mags are pretty expensive now days.

you dont have to pay high ass price's for AK's you can still get good deals out there you just have to search for them

or get a .223 saiga, and you can get US surplus, wolf, and get ammo at any gun shop, wallmart, meijer, kmart etc.

My galil mags were $12 for used, now they are $17 (for israel orlite plastic 35 rd'ers)

How much are the 5.45 mags?

anyways a .223 makes sure/increases odds you always can get ammo.

Of course nothing stopping anyone from buying 3,000 rds of 5.45 and sitting on it.

[blefferd]

nothing wrong with a 5,56 AK either! K-var sells 5,56 AK mags to. only bad thing is the high price of 5,56 ammo if you buy the non wolf stuff..


5,45 mags i would assume for non inflated prices 25-30$ a pop . the last 5,45 mags i got where the Russian Plums from Copes for 20$ each.


i have 9k rounds of 5,45 still wanting more to!!

[KingAirDriver]

Well, 1st step in the road is completed. I just listed my HK USPc for sale on our concealed carry forum. If I get it sold, I'm on to finding something!

I like the idea of trying to refinish it later down the road, but I'm also in the mindset of not having a purty rifle. My AR's starting to get a scratch or two here or there, and it doesn't bother me so much, haha. I think it all happened when I got my Sig P6 and thought, "Dayum, that looks like a sexy, used, beat-up pistol...I like it."

John, thanks for the offer! We'll see what I come up with; I'll take you up on the offer if I need to.

Lots of good arguments for caliber. I think it'll come down to the best deal on a rifle I can find.

Off to Dallas for a week...I'll check in when I can. You guys have been a great help!

[John A.]

No Problem KingAir.

As for caliber choice, I like the 7.62 for punch. I'm not really interested in a 5.56 AK since I've already got that well covered with my AR's, and they're far more accurate and are better suited to the round IMHO anyway.

The 5.45 is good, as long as you can buy a BUNCH of ammo for it, because for one, there's no US ammo factory making them, and two, it would just take a swipe with a pen to ban import WITHOUT a check and balance, so I'm leary of buying a gun chambered for it because of that.

7.62x39 gets my vote.

[FloridaPhil]

Originally Posted by John A.

No Problem KingAir.

As for caliber choice, I like the 7.62 for punch. I'm not really interested in a 5.56 AK since I've already got that well covered with my AR's, and they're far more accurate and are better suited to the round IMHO anyway.

The 5.45 is good, as long as you can buy a BUNCH of ammo for it, because for one, there's no US ammo factory making them, and two, it would just take a swipe with a pen to ban import WITHOUT a check and balance, so I'm leary of buying a gun chambered for it because of that.

7.62x39 gets my vote.

+1. My thinking also.

[U.S. Patriot]

I own a Madi (Ejyptian model). It's not the pretiest, has alot of battle scars. Never had a single problem, shooting nothing but Wolf through it. From research, and what I have been told stay away from the Chineese and Yugo models. Yes if you already have an AR, deffently go with an AK. They are not as accurate at long distances as an AR. On the other hand they have way more balistic power. Also localy the Wolf 7.62x39 is cheaper then the Wolf 5.56x45. Noone around here sales the 5.45 or AK74 ammo. Nor have I ever seen one in any of the shops.

[speedracer211]

I like the 7.62x39 round. Last shoot I was at we were plinking duck decoys. The guy next to me had a 5.45 ak and it would knock them off the berm. I would shoot the bottom of them and send them flying straight up in the air. He looked and said I guess that is a 7.62 Good times. Anyways I will be building a 5.45 soon.