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AK slam fire question

This is a discussion on AK slam fire question within the AK-47 Talk forums, part of the Long Gun Talk category; Originally Posted by yocan I like the idea, but thats one more thing for dirt to go around and jam up. LIke the recoil spring ...


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Old 11-22-2008, 02:52 PM   #51
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I like the idea, but thats one more thing for dirt to go around and jam up. LIke the recoil spring on the ak, they can get blocked up turn in effect into a rod not a spring and blow out the back of the AK in your face. In this case it would simply not work. I think you'd only be able to do it with a closed system, which wouldn't be practical in the bolt, it would jam up just like the buffer spring but most seriously and it would be faster I would think being closer to the gas tube. And be a more seroius pain to clean.
Huh?? Recoil springs on an AK don't get 'blocked up'. Neither do the rebound springs on AKs. Galils have used them forever. It shouldn't be hard to on an AR bolt, as long as it has a gas piston action instead of direct gas...to minimize fouling.
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Old 11-22-2008, 07:47 PM   #52
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Okay so I pulled out the ol' AK and went over Nodak's site as well as the ARS page. It appears my AK already has the "fix" done to the trigger. Apparently the place that built my rifle knew about the issue and proactively took care of it.

Also, according to the function test on Nodak's site my AK is fine. Under normal conditions everything works as it should. However, I was able to find the "sweet spot" that allowed hammer follow. I basically recreated the situation where the doubles come up by slowly pulling the trigger. As soon as the hammer released, I would hold the trigger still and pull back and release the bolt. The hammer instantly fell again.

Basically, I have about 1/8" of the trigger travel that will cause hammer follow. Normally, the trigger would travel past this point before the bolt passed over the hammer again. But when pulling the trigger really slow, as in target shooting I guess the trigger hangs out in that "sweet spot" just long enough to cause a double fire.

All that said...am I just being too picky? Should I just not try slow controlled shots with an AK? It seems like it could be just an inherent AK design issue. Is there a trigger group out there that would completely eliminate this problem?
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I appreciate the link Mad Pick, I had been looking for some brass catchers for awhile, as it looks like reloading will be the wave of the future.
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Old 11-23-2008, 07:53 AM   #54
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Okay so I pulled out the ol' AK and went over Nodak's site as well as the ARS page. It appears my AK already has the "fix" done to the trigger. Apparently the place that built my rifle knew about the issue and proactively took care of it.

Also, according to the function test on Nodak's site my AK is fine. Under normal conditions everything works as it should. However, I was able to find the "sweet spot" that allowed hammer follow. I basically recreated the situation where the doubles come up by slowly pulling the trigger. As soon as the hammer released, I would hold the trigger still and pull back and release the bolt. The hammer instantly fell again.

Basically, I have about 1/8" of the trigger travel that will cause hammer follow. Normally, the trigger would travel past this point before the bolt passed over the hammer again. But when pulling the trigger really slow, as in target shooting I guess the trigger hangs out in that "sweet spot" just long enough to cause a double fire.

All that said...am I just being too picky? Should I just not try slow controlled shots with an AK? It seems like it could be just an inherent AK design issue. Is there a trigger group out there that would completely eliminate this problem?
buy a new trigger group, which ever one you want and see what happens. Or get one of the best for semi-auto AKs...
Adjustable AK Trigger System
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Old 11-23-2008, 11:15 AM   #55
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All that said...am I just being too picky? Should I just not try slow controlled shots with an AK?
No!!! Get that thing fixed, man.

Well, it appears that the WWB ammo with the "soft" primers wasn't the problem after all . . . I'm glad to hear that. Although I didn't have any problems with WWB when I shot it earlier, I was a little concerned about finishing the box after reading this thread initially.
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buy a new trigger group, which ever one you want and see what happens. Or get one of the best for semi-auto AKs...
Adjustable AK Trigger System
Yeah, those Red Star triggers look nice. Anything good for about 1/2 that price? I only spend money like that on my Poodle Shooter.

Plus, I really wanna keep my AK simple and straightforward...as it should be. I keep looking for a quality basic trigger with no slap, and keep coming up with the G2.
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You could try this one:nodakspud home page.htm
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Also part of your problem could be from weak or worn spring/s.
It's fairly cheap to replace those 20-30 yo springs. Chances are
the springs that were in the kit were re-used in the build.
You can get good springs here:Falcon Arms :: AK-47 :: Springs and Spring Kits :: AK-47 Spring Kit
with some careful checking you'll get it solved and running right!
Good luck!
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You could try this one:nodakspud home page.htm
That's what I bought for mine. The quality looks good and it's designed to work with the Nodak receiver. I haven't put mine together yet, so I don't know how well it works, but for $40 you can't go wrong.
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Also part of your problem could be from weak or worn spring/s.
It's fairly cheap to replace those 20-30 yo springs. Chances are
the springs that were in the kit were re-used in the build.
You can get good springs here:Falcon Arms :: AK-47 :: Springs and Spring Kits :: AK-47 Spring Kit
with some careful checking you'll get it solved and running right!
Good luck!
Could be true. But my AK is built from a Romy G kit, from what I understand most were never fired though. Any truth to this? Guess I'll grab some springs anyway...couldn't hurt.

And I ordered a Nodak trigger, seems to be the most logical option. Thanks for the info guys. We'll see how it goes.
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