Why should i buy an AK over an AR/M4?

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by DanTheEldest

The AK is eviler and blacker than that other EBR.

I've become a bit of a Russian/combloc firearm fan, so the AK is the next step in the collection for me anyway, but here are my high points even if I weren't already favorably predisposed to them:

1. Rugged, simple construction
2. Legendary reliability even under really nasty conditions
3. Cheaper ammo
4. Pistons are more better than teensy gas tubes
5. They tend to scare people just by showing up
6. Half the world's armies and three-quarters of the narco-militias and guerilla fighters can't be wrong
7. Einheit has about sixty-seven of them, so they must be okay
8. Liberals desperately want to ban them, so they must be okay
9. They're so manly I sometimes feel...uh...inadequate when looking at hi-cap banana mags
10. They're designed to be easily field-stripped, reassembled, and used effectively by half-drunk, half-frozen illiterate conscripts. That gives me hope I might be able to become at least semi-proficient.

Ding, ding. A winner!

If that doesn't convince one, I don't know what would.

[AZXD]

Dan does have a way with words

[AZXD]

I'd say the number one thing is, what are you going to use it for ??
If you like distance go with an AR, if it doesn't suit you, you can always get another upper. Perhaps a BMG or less.

Then there is the aspect of how well you're gonna care for it. If you like to wait a day or ten before you clean it, get an AK. If you want to abuse it, get an AK.

I'll stop.
Timmy got it right "I recommend getting both eventually".

[XD 9 Loaded Sub-Compact]

I think everyone has pretty much pointed out that ethier way you go it's a win situation. Both are good guns, both have thier pro's and con's. I would reccomend buying one then saving up for the other as most of us have.

But personal preference is all yours to determine, do you want percision accuracy with minimal muzzle lift on a somewhat complicated gun that takes repetition to master? Or do youwant something with brute force a well known reputation for it's reliablity and so easy even a cave man can use it?

[bigjimcalhoun]

The AK cartridge is also a little more powerful and I hear is better when shooting at non-human targets like cars and helicopters.

[einheit 13]

It is the best assault weapon ever developed, bar none. If you're more into a rifle, pick the AR, if your more into 'mid range' shooting and want something that you can teach a 10 year old to maintain and it will last longer in the field than you, with out any support other than ammo, get an AK.

And on the accuracy thing that folks like to bring up-define accurate, and what is accurate enough. I've asked for volunteers to stand out at 500m...no takers though!

Then comes the 'sights suck' croed. they do leave a lot to be desired as far as radius and clarity. Its also the easiest sight to use for anyone. Most 'other' weapons are loaded with some kind of optic, so when you mount one on the AK, that stops that argument. Again, no one wants to stand out at 500m and let me show them how effective a rifleman can be, regardless of the weapon at hand-sometimes you have to earn it.

And then come the 'slow mag change' crowd-rock and lock-just like the M1A/M14, STG-58/FAL, GETME/HKs-but of course no one ever complains about those.

then come the 'ergonomics' guys-the safety is your finger, put a different stock on it to get a 'custom' cheek weld that fits you.....they ergonomics are just fine for Europeans and Asians...which of course complain about the 'American' style of rifle stock pull-its too long for most of them-its easier to make it longer than it is shorter!

and besides, its a symbol of revolution.....

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by XD 9 Loaded Sub-Compact

I think everyone has pretty much pointed out that ethier way you go it's a win situation. Both are good guns, both have thier pro's and con's. I would reccomend buying one then saving up for the other as most of us have.

But personal preference is all yours to determine, do you want percision accuracy with minimal muzzle lift on a somewhat complicated gun that takes repetition to master? Or do youwant something with brute force a well known reputation for it's reliablity and so easy even a cave man can use it?

Oh, you mean the AK-74 series.....there is nothing 'precision' about the ARs accuracy-its just average, has no range advantage over the M43 round or the 5,45. ANd the AK-74 moves even less than the AR when fired.

[XD 9 Loaded Sub-Compact]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

It is the best assault weapon ever developed, bar none. If you're more into a rifle, pick the AR, if your more into 'mid range' shooting and want something that you can teach a 10 year old to maintain and it will last longer in the field than you, with out any support other than ammo, get an AK.

And on the accuracy thing that folks like to bring up-define accurate, and what is accurate enough. I've asked for volunteers to stand out at 500m...no takers though!

And then come the 'slow mag change' crowd-rock and lock-just like the M1A/M14, STG-58/FAL, GETME/HKs-but of course no one ever complains about those.

then come the 'ergonomics' guys-the safety is your finger, put a different stock on it to get a 'custom' cheek weld that fits you.....they ergonomics are just fine for Europeans and Asians...which of course complain about the 'American' style of rifle stock pull-its too long for most of them-its easier to make it longer than it is shorter!

and besides, its a symbol of revolution.....

I agree with all of your statements. My mentioning specifically "percision" accuracy is not intended to reduce the ak's accuracy to a sparadic barrage of hopefull target hits. I was more making mention that it'd be easier to shoot a dime at 200 yds with an AR over an AK, while still acknowlaging that it's possible to do the same with an AK I just reiterate the word "easier" with an AR. I have both the AK and AR and I will tell you the AK gets shot more.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by XD 9 Loaded Sub-Compact

I agree with all of your statements. My mentioning specifically "percision" accuracy is not intended to reduce the ak's accuracy to a sparadic barrage of hopefull target hits. I was more making mention that it'd be easier to shoot a dime at 200 yds with an AR over an AK, while still acknowlaging that it's possible to do the same with an AK I just reiterate the word "easier" with an AR. I have both the AK and AR and I will tell you the AK gets shot more.

I knew what you meant, but with an AK, I'll turn that dime into two nickles!

[XD 9 Loaded Sub-Compact]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

I knew what you meant, but with an AK, I'll turn that dime into two nickles!

Very true.