AK legal build questions

[AZXD]

Hey all,
I've got a couple of questions, and am hoping someone can help me out.

First, I am about to purchase a couple of AK Romy kits and am confused as to the legal aspect of this type of build. I understand the issue of compliance parts count, but am a little confused about the receiver.
If I purchase a flat, do I need to do any paperwork with the ATF advising them of the build ??
My intentions are to build a rifle & pistol.

Also, I ran across this post that no one answered on another forum ... If possible, I could use an answer to these questions as well.

I want to have fun and learn from this, but I do not want part of the education being a stint with the FED's over a screw-up.

Hi,

Please forgive me for being a bit risk-averse here; I'm trying to perform as much research as possible before I proceed with a course of activity that could inadvertently land me in prison!

If anyone with legal (federal) understanding could help me with these quesitons, I would greatly appreciate it!

(1) [GENERAL] It seems that a great many people are building home-made receivers, and the FAQ section of the BATF's website seems to endorse this activity. But . . . I can't find any federal statutory (or CFR) provision that directly states that people can build _____ number of receivers without a manufacturer's license.

So . . . is it true that you can build your own receivers (say, for an AR-15 or AK-47), provided that you abide by the 922(r) part stuff? If so, is there a limit on the number that you can build per year?

(2) [PISTOLS] If it is, in fact, lawful for a person to build / bend their own receivers, logic would seem to indicate that pistols would not be subject to the 922(r) "assault rifle" provisions. And, as far as I understand, the receiver in an AK or AR pistol is structurally the same as a rifle receiver.

SO, if I were to build / bend an AK receiver (or 80% AR receiver), could I "stamp" it as "Pistol Only," complete it with a short barrel upper, and avoid prison for possession of a short barrel rifle?

(3) In addition to any personal knowledge, can anyone point me to BATF letters / rulings / etc. that answer these questions one way or another?

Thank you so much (whoever) for helping. I would ordinarily send a letter to the BATF for an official ruling, but the current political enviornment has caused me to complete these projects with a bit more haste.

[speedracer211]

Pistols do not fall into 922r compliance, but can not have a stock fixed to it. Receivers 80% and from flats need no paperwork at all. If you go to sell it though you are suppossed to have your name and adress I believe engraved on it somewhere.

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by speedracer211

Pistols do not fall into 922r compliance, but can not have a stock fixed to it. Receivers 80% and from flats need no paperwork at all. If you go to sell it though you are suppossed to have your name and adress I believe engraved on it somewhere.

or a forward grip of any kind that you physically wrap your fingers around. Other than that, Speedy covered it!

[zac07]

Originally Posted by speedracer211

Pistols do not fall into 922r compliance, but can not have a stock fixed to it. Receivers 80% and from flats need no paperwork at all. If you go to sell it though you are suppossed to have your name and adress I believe engraved on it somewhere.

so you do not have to have the compliance parts on the pistol ? I know you would still have to get the FCG, but would that be it ?

[einheit 13]

Originally Posted by zac07

so you do not have to have the compliance parts on the pistol ? I know you would still have to get the FCG, but would that be it ?

Nope, you can use the hammer and trigger of the original group-but a new one makes life (and shooting) easier.

[AZXD]

Your answers are kind of what I thought, but you never can tell how some things should be interpreted.
All the SBR/AOW stuff, I understand.
I guess I got/get confused because when I originally looked up this stuff, and everytime since, I just can't get the idea of a total build from scratch out of my head. It is my understanding that in those instances, you must get permission from ATF to build a firearm. Gray area I know!! Did the AWB ending change things ?? I seem to remember at one time that an 80% receiver needed paperwork, required an engraved serial number etcetera.

So just to give a little insight, the build plan is for a Romy kit that stays pretty much stock. Wood furniture change internals to meet 922.

As for the pistol, I'm thinking something along the lines of this.


Then after all is said and done ..... There is this little thing that uses a Suomi drum that holds a bunch of 9mm ..... But that one will have to wait for later.


Hopefully the build bug will stick around for a long time

[einheit 13]

if you're gonna do the 9mm trip, the build bug will have to stay around for a while-they are a PIA sometimes. The 7.62x25s are lots of fun-

been here yet??
Lichtenberg Research and Design Featuring the 2XTM

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by einheit 13

if you're gonna do the 9mm trip, the build bug will have to stay around for a while-they are a PIA sometimes. The 7.62x25s are lots of fun-

been here yet??
Lichtenberg Research and Design Featuring the 2XTM

Absolutely, been there

The 9 shouldn't be that bad. Did I mention that I teach mech. design CAD is a speciality!!