Why are there no pistol caliber AKs?This is a discussion on Why are there no pistol caliber AKs? within the AK-47 Talk forums, part of the Long Gun Talk category; I have been itching for a 9mm carbine for a while (no, i am not looking for suggestions) and I noticed that there are no ...
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04-16-2012, 02:54 PM
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Why are there no pistol caliber AKs?
I have been itching for a 9mm carbine for a while (no, i am not looking for suggestions) and I noticed that there are no pistol-caliber carbines based on the AK47 platform (well, except for a bullpup version; i think it is called the OC14 or something.).
Anyway, what is it about the design that keeps a manufacturer from deciding to produce one?
Insufficient market? Design prevents it from working properly with 'rimless' cartridges? Generalized sacrilege to Kalashnikov's original design?
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04-16-2012, 05:09 PM
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There's the Bizon in 9mm. There are also some exotic russian calibers like 7.62x33 and others that the AK has been chambered in.
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04-16-2012, 05:19 PM
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Why are there no pistol caliber AKs?
Just a wild guess, but maybe because 7.62x39 and 5.45 are technically designated as a pistol round by ATF, so there are all kinds of AK's chambered in pistol rounds already without sacrificing firepower and effective range with a subgun bullet.
rec.guns FAQ: II.G.1. Federal Law and AP Ammunition
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04-16-2012, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John A.
Why are there no pistol caliber AKs?
Just a wild guess, but maybe because 7.62x39 and 5.45 are technically designated as a pistol round by ATF, so there are all kinds of AK's chambered in pistol rounds already without sacrificing firepower and effective range with a subgun bullet.
rec.guns FAQ: II.G.1. Federal Law and AP Ammunition
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9mm anyone???
x25......
Lichtenberg Research and Design Featuring the 2XTM used to offer parts and tutorials for a sub calibre...
EOD I think still offers a conversion.
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There's the Bizon in 9mm. There are also some exotic russian calibers like 7.62x33 and others that the AK has been chambered in.
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Is the Bizon semi auto legal to import into the U.S.? I'd like to find a Bizon in 9X18mm to match my pistol. I've read about them but never seen any for sale.
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Is the Bizon semi auto legal to import into the U.S.? I'd like to find a Bizon in 9X18mm to match my pistol. I've read about them but never seen any for sale.
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I would have guessed it takes a beefy cartridge with a strong enough powder load to move that hefty piston but apparently I was wrong now that I have seen some of the conversion that were shown here.
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I would be very interested in purchasing a (semi) bizon factory SBR, threaded barrel 1/2"-28 tpi.
Yes sir indeed.
Even with a silencer though, the action still sounds "klacky", but I would very much like to add one to my collection.
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I would be very interested in purchasing a (semi) bizon factory SBR, threaded barrel 1/2"-28 tpi.
Yes sir indeed.
Even with a silencer though, the action still sounds "klacky", but I would very much like to add one to my collection.
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May not be the best choice, but sign me up for the 9X18mm in semi auto. That 64 round magazine / fore arm would be nice. I wonder how hard it is to load that thing though. Not a good looking gun, but it kind of follows the AK theme, function over looks / style. 12" to 16" barrel and under folding stock would suit me just fine. Stupid government gun regulations!
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